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Re:Quicklisp - The upcoming solution to Common Lisp's "libra... by jules on Friday September 03, 2010 @04:24PM (#1661004)
The YC founder vs PHP "scripter" was meant as two extremes and my target is closer to the former. But indeed they do not have a lot of cash. That's why I wanted to try and go after "Microsoft Developers".

- They seem to have the money because they buy expensive IDEs, expensive version control systems, expensive things that allow them to track project progress, etc.

- They care less about whether what they are using is open source

- Building it on top of .NET means development costs are much reduced but still massive

- They are using overly complicated and not very usable tools/libraries on .NET

> I'm saying this because you have said "not made it big". If you are after just making a living doing what you like, maybe the success of Clojure in that regard can be encouraging.

Yes I would be happy with something like that too, but if I have something that improves someones productivity by 10% that provides a lot of value; I'd like to turn this value into a financial success too ;)

> Have you considered tapping the non-technical audience? Maybe many non-technical users would be delighted to be able to customize their environment. If you are looking for a challenging intellectual task, don't underestimate the difficulty of designing simple tools.

The problem with this is that I have zero ideas in that space...that said it's definitely an interesting space. Making some of the things you can do by programming available to a non-technical audience seems very hard though.

Re:Quicklisp - The upcoming solution to Common Lisp's "libra... by lelele on Friday September 03, 2010 @06:06PM (#1661322)
Well, I just say: go know your potential customers. I still think that designing a worthy new language + IDE would be really hard work. However, don't take my words!

Have you considered developing tools or plugin to easy their work? For instance, I'm using WholeTomato's Visual Assist and it really rocks.

> The problem with this is that I have zero ideas in that space...that said it's definitely an interesting space. Making some of the things you can do by programming available to a non-technical audience seems very hard though.

Just don't go overboard. I urge you to go out and meet people, and look for ways to easy their pain. For instance, you will be shocked at how small-business owners struggle to accomplish simple tasks. At how big-companies employee struggle with outdated software.

Good luck!

Re:Quicklisp - The upcoming solution to Common Lisp's "libra... by gaius on Sunday September 05, 2010 @04:26AM (#1664222)
Microsoft (who whatever anyone says, know a thing or two about developer tools) have three "personalities". The typical corporate developer who just wants to do 9-5 (nothing wrong with that), up to the high-academic theoretician. When adding a feature to VS or whatever, they think, how will each of our personas use it?

I can't find the original article but here's a rference to it: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/11/mort-elvis-einstein...