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Re:Schools Are Spending Millions on High-Tech Surveillance o... by BoiledCabbage on Saturday March 17, 2018 @02:38PM (#16608352)
There will be an entire generation of kids for whom spying on everything they do on their computer till age18 will have been normalized.

What happens when they start participating in denocracy. It's hard to imagine they'll have the same expectations of personal privacy after that.

Re:Schools Are Spending Millions on High-Tech Surveillance o... by eikenberry on Saturday March 17, 2018 @02:55PM (#16608441)
This is just their school issued Ipad. They'd hopefully have a personal computing device of some sort that they'd be free to do what they want on. Assuming they don't have helicopter parents who have to control every aspect of their kids lives, then they're just screwed.
Re:Schools Are Spending Millions on High-Tech Surveillance o... by ams6110 on Saturday March 17, 2018 @03:39PM (#16608660)
Right -- it's the school's iPad, and they can set the terms of use.

Do schools still have libraries? They did when I went, and you can be sure they curated the set of books in the catalog and kept records of who checked out which ones.

Re:Schools Are Spending Millions on High-Tech Surveillance o... by jstarfish on Saturday March 17, 2018 @04:54PM (#16609022)
Even the public libraries started disclosing checkout history to agencies with the advent of the PATRIOT act.
Re:Schools Are Spending Millions on High-Tech Surveillance o... by jacobolus on Saturday March 17, 2018 @05:57PM (#16609268)
Re:Schools Are Spending Millions on High-Tech Surveillance o... by tzs on Sunday March 18, 2018 @01:41AM (#16610604)
On the positive side, maybe there will be an entire generation of kids who learn in school the importance of using your own devices instead of devices issued to you and owned by others when you do things that you wish to keep private.

Better to learn that lesson in school, when the mistakes that teach it to you will be confined to your juvenile records, than to learn it as an adult when it can follow you for the rest of your life.

Re:Schools Are Spending Millions on High-Tech Surveillance o... by EGreg on Saturday March 17, 2018 @04:00PM (#16608777)
You mean like Social Media has already done to two generations? LOL

If anything, more people reshare criticism more publicly than ever, even as they are being surveilled.

Admittedly, the difference is that our society thinks it's OK to punish kids and teenagers to make them get in line. That's the actual problem and the solution is not to have them hide their thoughts as much as to respect them more as human beings.

Re:Schools Are Spending Millions on High-Tech Surveillance o... by blattimwind on Saturday March 17, 2018 @04:21PM (#16608873)
Well, punishment rarely works as a method of education/parenting, and even if it does it's practically assured to not be the most effective method. Of course, some people remain who think even corporal punishment is OK for kids, but then again those are the kind of person you wish don't have kids anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Re:Schools Are Spending Millions on High-Tech Surveillance o... by jstarfish on Saturday March 17, 2018 @04:48PM (#16608996)
I grew up with the knowledge that everything I did was monitored, given the nature of my parents employment.

All it led to was a lifetime of learning how to improve my opsec and now I work in the field myself.

Continuous improvement!