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Re:Long Live Mister Rogers' Quiet Revolution by skookumchuck on Friday March 16, 2018 @05:05PM (#16604014)
> Until today.

Not much is ever seen of the Federation in ST. But the parent I replied to, and its parent, are referring to the Enterprise.

Also, when I've seen references to ST as the model of utopia, Captain Kirk is often talked about front and center. Clearly, they are referring to the society on the Enterprise.

You can also see in this article cited later in this discussion:

http://grantland.com/features/next-generation-turns-25/

with quotes like this:

"and Picard’s personification of enlightened humanism"

Re:Long Live Mister Rogers' Quiet Revolution by kolpa on Friday March 16, 2018 @07:02PM (#16604589)
Picard was a model of a good leader. That doesn't mean a spaceship command is a model for how all society functions.