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Re:Apple's Ping Overrun with Spam by vaksel on Friday September 03, 2010 @12:12PM (#1660049)
the only way to battle spam is to either A) moderate all comemnts or B) close all comments

Anything else can be bypassed

Re:Apple's Ping Overrun with Spam by brownleej on Friday September 03, 2010 @01:30PM (#1660344)
That is the only way to battle spam with 100% effectiveness, yes. But there are other ways to do it that can still be very good, even though they're not perfect. The filtering for comment spam in Ping is subpar, and I don't think the difficulty of the task excuses the fact that Apple has done a poor job.
Re:Apple's Ping Overrun with Spam by bemmu on Friday September 03, 2010 @12:40PM (#1660154)
The spam filter on GMail seems to work well enough.
Re:Apple's Ping Overrun with Spam by vaksel on Friday September 03, 2010 @12:44PM (#1660169)
talking about comment spam here.
Re:Apple's Ping Overrun with Spam by CamperBob on Friday September 03, 2010 @09:55PM (#1661759)
What's the difference between email spam and comment spam, exactly? Why don't online forums use Bayesian filtering to get rid of comment spam?
Re:Apple's Ping Overrun with Spam by mishmash on Friday September 03, 2010 @10:56PM (#1661870)
I haven't followed SpamAssassin in several years, but have any startups ever tried running their comments through it?

As you point out, it seems like many of their rules for emails would apply equally well to blog comments.

Re:Apple's Ping Overrun with Spam by mkr-hn on Saturday September 04, 2010 @12:58PM (#1662970)
Doesn't Akismet work the same way as gmail's filter?
Re:Apple's Ping Overrun with Spam by jasonlotito on Friday September 03, 2010 @12:57PM (#1660220)
Yeah, you missed the point here.
Re:Apple's Ping Overrun with Spam by gojomo on Friday September 03, 2010 @01:48PM (#1660410)
...or C) limit comment rights to a group of responsible, traceable people

...or D) moderate new registrants for a probationary period

...or E) enlist some of your users-in-good-standing for moderation

...or F) moderate just those comments which an automated system flags as having high spam likelihood (links, images, emails)

...or G) require some small demonstration/forfeit of value (such as a posting fee) for each post. (Risking a non-probationary account that took effort to create is a special case of this.)

...or H) blended variants of the above

Re:Apple's Ping Overrun with Spam by vaksel on Friday September 03, 2010 @02:18PM (#1660531)
none of those will work 100%
Re:Apple's Ping Overrun with Spam by CountHackulus on Friday September 03, 2010 @02:42PM (#1660626)
They don't need to work 100%, just better than it works now.
Re:Apple's Ping Overrun with Spam by gojomo on Friday September 03, 2010 @04:26PM (#1661013)
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Re:Apple's Ping Overrun with Spam by mishmash on Friday September 03, 2010 @10:54PM (#1661866)
Wow I love this comment.