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Re:Ancient DNA Is Rewriting Human and Neanderthal History by mc32 on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:16AM (#16593007)
I don't think I'd ever hear a non white say they are disappointed with being 100% what they are, be they Asian, Black, etc. Maybe there are, I've never home across them, but a few whites have this tendency to wish for having "interesting" ancestry like sen. Warren.

It's something odd. As if they are somewhat uncomfortable on their own skin. Shame is the wrong word, but i can't find the right descriptor. On the other hand, i think this points to social pressures that make people feel that way about themselves.

Re:Ancient DNA Is Rewriting Human and Neanderthal History by delecti on Thursday March 15, 2018 @04:06PM (#16596129)
I agree it's odd, and yet still shared that sense of disappointment in the lack of surprises in my 23andMe report. I also don't think it's entirely irrational.

The most interesting result is the least expected result that doesn't include bad news. Outside relatively small circles, the vast majority of white people will lose none of their privilege or social position if they find out their ancestry includes something unexpected. It's clearly pretty widespread too, because all of the 23andMe advertising includes people ostensibly of European descent who find out they've got unexpected ancestry.

Re:Ancient DNA Is Rewriting Human and Neanderthal History by kolinko on Friday March 16, 2018 @04:26AM (#16599337)
Perhaps it's a matter of where you come from?

In US, varied ancestry is a norm if I'm not mistaken, so having a "pure" heritage makes you unique. In many countries it's the opposite - the default is "pure" heritage, and having varied background is what makes you stand out.

Also, from the health perspective, varied ancestry is better if I'm not mistaken. Kind of like pure breed animals being less healthy in general, compared to mixtures.

I'm 99.5% European (86% Eastern European), and 0.5% East Asian/Native American. I hoped for more varied ancestry when I received the results.

Re:Ancient DNA Is Rewriting Human and Neanderthal History by ChemicalWarfare on Thursday March 15, 2018 @07:34PM (#16597433)
in some circles it is considered "cool" to be admixed or foreign. there's also a fair amount of virtue signaling attached to that as well.
Re:Ancient DNA Is Rewriting Human and Neanderthal History by allthenews on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:54AM (#16593344)
What you are seeing is simply a reflection of what is socially acceptable.
Re:Ancient DNA Is Rewriting Human and Neanderthal History by mc32 on Thursday March 15, 2018 @11:38AM (#16593747)
So you're saying whites have the privilege of wishing they had "interesting" DNA history, but others don't have that privilege, even with all they have in say East Asia. I think it's more with social cues and pressures.
Re:Ancient DNA Is Rewriting Human and Neanderthal History by allthenews on Thursday March 15, 2018 @11:48AM (#16593842)
What? This isn't about privilege, this is about fashion, and white guilt is increasingly in.
Re:Ancient DNA Is Rewriting Human and Neanderthal History by smhost on Thursday March 15, 2018 @12:22PM (#16594182)
And of course, it's not the white guilt that's in fashion. It's the black pride that's in fashion, as it always has been.
Re:Ancient DNA Is Rewriting Human and Neanderthal History by mc32 on Thursday March 15, 2018 @12:31PM (#16594271)
What? I don't get any of either those assertions. People should be comfortable with who they are. I don't think pride is necessary, but also unnecessary and probably detrimental is to feel uncomfortable with yourself, be that anything, in this case ancestry.
Re:Ancient DNA Is Rewriting Human and Neanderthal History by smhost on Thursday March 15, 2018 @01:35PM (#16594865)
How can you not understand black pride? The story of the Negro that survived the racist horrors of white oppression, the voice of the enslaved person that became La Marseillaise sung at the Haitian revolution, that became jazz, that became hip hop. The impossible resistance against the whitewashing and cultral genocide, the freedom and liberty earned by wielding the spirit of the Enlightenment channeled through the black experience. Black identity is more American than America. Freedom from taxation against the freedom to exist. There is no comparison. It's worthy of pride.

There's dignity in guilt, and it's essential for growth. You really don't seem to understand the human condition.

Re:Ancient DNA Is Rewriting Human and Neanderthal History by abiox on Thursday March 15, 2018 @04:14PM (#16596176)
perhaps you were a bit too ready to bask in some romanticism to really speak to what they were saying.
Re:Ancient DNA Is Rewriting Human and Neanderthal History by smhost on Thursday March 15, 2018 @08:24PM (#16597682)
No, that's not what happened here.