Key Git Concepts Explained the Hard Way

Re:Key Git Concepts Explained the Hard Way by jogjayr on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @07:22PM (#16589259)

That's a great question and I had to think a lot about how to answer it. I think there are 2 aspects to consider whether something is worth learning: relevance to your current skills, and use of the knowledge.

We insist, especially when hiring, that programmers know something about the internal design of other software that they use, but don't develop, on a day-to-day basis. Any programmer, depending on programming specialty, that doesn't have some idea about design of their operating system, networking stack, databases, or hardware would flunk out interview processes (and probably rightly so). The reason we insist on this specialized knowledge is because most of the time these things work fine, but when they don't the good software engineer proves their worth by being able to dig deeper.

Version control software is used just as frequently as any of this other software. But somehow there seems to be this feeling that it's not worth learning about and should just be a black box (I think package managers are treated similarly). Understanding git internals and design is a valuable software engineering lesson in and of itself.

The other aspect is having knowledge of Photoshop file formats is of limited utility unless you're an Adobe employee or Gimp developer (I don't know if the spec is open or not). Photoshop itself is closed-source and not so extensible or scriptable as an open-source command-line tool.

That's not true for git - knowing git internals reaps productivity benefits in your other work too. Treating it as a black box robs you of the knowledge to do some really cool stuff.

Broadly speaking this applies to any other software tool used by programmers - the more you know of its internal details, the more proficient you'll be in its use.

So in both respects (practical and from a learning standpoint) I think knowledge of git internals for a git-using programmer is a desirable thing.

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Re:Key Git Concepts Explained the Hard Way by lemming on Thursday March 15, 2018 @02:56AM (#16590899)

While I mostly agree with you, I used linear VCS systems (mostly Perforce and SVN) for decades, and I still have no idea how they actually work. Git is fairly unique in that it basically forces you to understand how it works in order to use it, which I think is a major failing. I mean, it's nice that you can understand it and that that knowledge means that you can be more effective with it, but I don't think it should be compulsory. Currently it is compulsory for anything but the simplest workflows.

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Re:Key Git Concepts Explained the Hard Way by slavak on Thursday March 15, 2018 @04:25AM (#16591172)

This doesn't seem specifically a linear vs distributed VCS thing, as much as it is a unique property of git. I previously used Mercurial, and at no point did I feel I had to understand how the VCS stores its commit graph in order to know what running some set of commands will do.

git is unique in its apparent assumption that it's nothing more than a series of convenience scripts that let you work on the raw filesysten representation a bit more easily. In a way it's more a filesystem-level representation of a DAG with some sugar on top, than it is a DVCS.

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Re:Key Git Concepts Explained the Hard Way by masklinn on Thursday March 15, 2018 @05:31AM (#16591400)

> This doesn't seem specifically a linear vs distributed VCS thing, as much as it is a unique property of git. I previously used Mercurial, and at no point did I feel I had to understand how the VCS stores its commit graph in order to know what running some set of commands will do.

Ditto. I've used Darcs, Mercurial and Bazaar, all are distributed, all have various levels of issues, but none of them required that I understand everything from the storage model up in order to actually get a grasp on them. I still have better intuition for Mercurial than Git (and long for a number of its features like GIVE ME FUCKING REVSETS ALREADY) despite not having seriously used Mercurial in years and having no idea whatsoever what goes under the CLI (and not caring a whit).

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