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Re:Developers love trendy new languages, but earn more with ... by koblas on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @09:12AM (#16575798)
IMHO this is a misleading outcome.

What isn't represented to remove a bias from the numbers is the number of years of experience and education. It's highly unlikely that bootcamp graduates will be working in OCaml/Erlang since these will bias to people with CS degrees who understand the why behind functional.

Re:Developers love trendy new languages, but earn more with ... by aje403 on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @10:09AM (#16576202)
Misleading is the right word.

Wrong conclusion: E[Earnings|Language=OCaml] > E[Earnings|Language=Javascript]

More accurate conclusion: E[Earnings|Language=OCaml,School=Top10,Major=DualCS/Math] >> E[Earnings|Language=Javascript],

E[Earnings|Language=Javascript] >> E[Earnings|Language=OCaml,School=Who?,Major=Not DualCS/Math]

Re:Developers love trendy new languages, but earn more with ... by b4lancesh33t on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @11:10AM (#16576720)
This can be stated more generally:

If you didn't explicitly control for it, your results probably only reflect selection bias.

Re:Developers love trendy new languages, but earn more with ... by chris11 on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @12:16PM (#16577287)
I'd say that it is definitely possible for selection bias to indicate a causal relationship though. Because hiring and compensation isn't just controlled by technical ability or productivity. So there is chance a supposedly non-causal indicator will have a direct impact.

For instance, let's a dev with a really unremarkable resume gets paid significantly less than his coworkers in a really hot subfield because all his coworkers have a top-10 stem degree, research with top professors, and work experience at really hot startups. It's likely if he is a decent negotiator the underpaid dev's compensation will eventually revert to the mean. That will be the compensation of an extremely marketable dev if he can sell himself as a dev with really valuable experience.

Re:Developers love trendy new languages, but earn more with ... by fnwx17 on Tuesday March 13, 2018 @10:55AM (#16576586)
while it's true that usually, you need to understand the basics of CS to write good functional code, we've often found that that doesn't need to be 100% correct.

we've placed a good amount of functional engineers from a Math, Physics, Logic sometimes even Biology background that had a strong affinity for functions and found OOP generally painful.

I think it's that functional programming is more of a niche with an even more disparity between demand/supply regarding the salaries.

Oh, and usually HR people have a pretty bad filter when it comes to functional engineers, so they only filter by keywords