News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Slack's bait and switch by zwily on Monday March 12, 2018 @09:02AM (#16567847)
“Sync’d read-state across multiple devices” is what sold me on Slack years ago. I had been trying to simulate it for a long time in IRC using various bouncers, but it never worked very well and was hard to set up for non-technical people at work.
Re:Slack's bait and switch by isostatic on Monday March 12, 2018 @12:57PM (#16569499)
I use irccloud for persistence in IRC, but it's not as good as slack overall.

Work had a private irc server that required all sorts of client certificates to join, forget non-technical people -- it wasn't very good for technical people either!

Re:Slack's bait and switch by Mithaldu on Monday March 12, 2018 @09:43AM (#16568056)
Try IRCCloud.
Re:Slack's bait and switch by moosingin3space on Monday March 12, 2018 @10:08AM (#16568198)
Which is a centralized, proprietary, web-based client. All three of which HN loves to hate Slack for.
Re:Slack's bait and switch by isostatic on Monday March 12, 2018 @12:59PM (#16569513)
It does have a really easy way to extract your conversations as a log file though. An OSS version of irccloud you could just "apt-get install blahblah" with may have stemmed the rise of slack, at least in companies.
Re:Slack's bait and switch by moosingin3space on Monday March 12, 2018 @03:11PM (#16570544)
I expect this niche will be filled by Matrix in the near future. Host a Matrix homeserver + Riot.im web UI, then employees can use Riot mobile apps and any Matrix-supporting client.

For the record, I don't like Slack very much. I just disagree that IRC or IRCCloud are acceptable alternatives.

Re:Slack's bait and switch by zwily on Monday March 12, 2018 @10:09AM (#16568204)
IRCCloud was is its infancy when Slack came on the scene. If it had existed back then, maybe we wouldn’t have switched? I don’t know, but it’s way too late now. (I have never used it, and am just assuming the read state sync works as well as Slack, which may be a big assumption.)