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Re:FCC Accuses Stealthy Startup of Launching Rogue Satellites by rtkwe on Friday March 09, 2018 @06:20PM (#16555943)
> First, while the FCC clearly has US authority over spectrum, how is it that its charter includes satellite launches? Or conversely, if they SpaceBees never turn on did they violate the license? And on what basis does the FCC get to evaluate the risk of other things in orbit, isn't that NORAD's job? And what if this had been a startup in Bangalore or Mumbai, would they be getting crap from the FCC for launching the very same satellites?

It's just an expansion of their mandate happens all the time. Instead of creating a whole new department just to regulate launches adding it to the department that will be issuing a license anyways (anything worth putting up is going to be transmitting down so pretty much any launch will have the FCC looking at it already).

As for the rest it's really hard to do much of anything covertly in space, if it's above the size of a softball the DoD will pick it up on it's space monitoring sensors. Same thing with changing orbits unannounced they'll know within at most an orbit when the object suddenly is not where they expect it to be.

In the end the answer is could you? Yes, theoretically. But you'd have to find a launch company willing to host you and prey you have somewhere good to hide/a host strong enough to protect you because you're going to piss off every single country with a space program.

Re:FCC Accuses Stealthy Startup of Launching Rogue Satellites by virtuowl on Saturday March 10, 2018 @04:41AM (#16557879)
If the thing about the dods tracking capabilities was true there would not be satellites that are lost and found decades later by amateurs
Re:FCC Accuses Stealthy Startup of Launching Rogue Satellites by rtkwe on Saturday March 10, 2018 @11:32AM (#16559085)
If you're talking about IMAGE it was known where it was NASA just didn't know that it was still transmitting. IIRC the discoverer actually used the orbital elements to determine what satellite he was seeing. They still had an active and accurate TLE for it they'd just stopped checking because NASA thought it was dead in space after the eclipse a couple years ago failed to reset the broken power supply. [0]

[0] https://skyriddles.wordpress.com/2018/01/21/nasas-long-dead-...

Re:FCC Accuses Stealthy Startup of Launching Rogue Satellites by jccooper on Saturday March 10, 2018 @10:48AM (#16558893)
"the thing about the dods tracking capabilities" is true. They know what's up there, down to lost tool bags.

The instances you're thinking of are either "lost" as in "presumed dead" (like IMAGE) or non-Earth orbit probes (like ISEE-3). IMAGE was never untracked, and ISEE-3 was never supposed to be tracked (but its location was still known.)

Re:FCC Accuses Stealthy Startup of Launching Rogue Satellites by noir_lord on Saturday March 10, 2018 @08:58AM (#16558478)
If the dod tracking is really fantastic, the smart move might be to not demonstrate it remotely publicly.

Remember when the NRO gave NASA two space telescopes no one knew they even had, bother where comparable in scope/complexity to Hubble.

Re:FCC Accuses Stealthy Startup of Launching Rogue Satellites by rtkwe on Saturday March 10, 2018 @11:37AM (#16559106)
> NRO gave NASA two space telescopes no one knew they even had

The only reference I can find for this says the NRO satellites won't be launch till 2020. They're not up in orbit.

[0] https://www.space.com/16000-spy-satellites-space-telescopes-...

Re:FCC Accuses Stealthy Startup of Launching Rogue Satellites by noir_lord on Saturday March 10, 2018 @05:41PM (#16560546)
My point was that the NRO had the resources to build two Hubble level telescopes that no one knew they had until they handed them over, an agency with little oversight, large amounts of cash and very few leaks.

If they are handing over that kind of technology I wouldn’t rule out them having some amazing tracking stuff we know nothing about and won’t for a decade or two if ever.

Re:FCC Accuses Stealthy Startup of Launching Rogue Satellites by rtkwe on Monday March 12, 2018 @10:23AM (#16568286)
Hubble's tech isn't particularly impressive any more. NRO having 2 spare is more a sign of just how much money is sloshing around over there than anything else I think.
Re:FCC Accuses Stealthy Startup of Launching Rogue Satellites by tehwebguy on Saturday March 10, 2018 @04:01PM (#16560136)
> It's just an expansion of their mandate happens all the time.

At least we now know that Pai's talk of scaling FCC back to let the legislators decide was untrue!