Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways

Re:Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways by dijit on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @04:43PM (#16540194)

Animated custom emojis seem to be a common thread, animated images in general cause my CPU and memory to spike when using slack. Our network engineer loves this dancing parrot emoji but it basically pins a core on my machine and adds 20-30% of memory to slacks process.

I've switched over to using mattermost, it can be (and is) self hosted so I'm not as worried about slack getting hacked (again) and leaking our info/taking control of our systems with chatops.

The downside is; mattermost is not a strong replacement. I wrote a bot to basically do a large part of my job for me, and coding against mattermosts websocket protocol and dealing with authentication has been messy to say the least.

Slack is a joy to code against and use from a UI perspective when compared. (sadly, as I don't like it for ideological reasons)

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Re:Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways by jsmthrowaway on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @04:47PM (#16540228)

Mattermost is also an example of how not to license software, including a promise not to enforce provisions of the license they have chosen. If one needs a promise, one has probably chosen the wrong licensing structure.

Here's a fun one: say I use the MIT binaries, then debug a problem by reading the AGPL source code. What legal position am I in? (If you have an answer for that rhetorical question, by the way, you haven't thought of the problem long enough.)

https://github.com/mattermost/mattermost-server/blob/master/...

They launched exclusively AGPL and then made MIT as a concession after discovering that a number of companies outright ban AGPL and won't pay for it unlike MongoDB, but licensing binaries differently than source code is not something you come across often.

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Re:Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways by __david__ on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @05:33PM (#16540609)

I must be slow because I'm not seeing the issue. Can you explain it how reading the source code affects your relationship with a binary you didn't build?

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Re:Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways by master-litty on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @05:08PM (#16540415)

For the curious, there's some history to that parrot emoji:

http://cultofthepartyparrot.com

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Re:Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways by Cogito on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @08:26PM (#16541531)

Perhaps a better source for 'history'[0]

On a side note, Last Chance to See is a great book (Douglas Adams) and show (Stephen Fry), highly recommend both of them.

[0] http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/party-parrot

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Re:Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways by Semaphor on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @05:16PM (#16540483)

I wouldn't call that history. I only encountered a variant of this gif once, on a discord channel having the face of one of the two streamers. This site just shows me a lot of very similar gifs.

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Re:Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways by master-litty on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @09:45PM (#16541870)

Towards the bottom it gives a little background, with links to more information.

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