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Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by stcredzero on Monday March 05, 2018 @04:16PM (#16524475)
Except this is a GOP agenda...You are just accusing anything involving regulations as "Leftist" without acknowledging it is the standard banners of your own party that enable it.

I am not a Republican. I've always voted Democrat.

When your expectations are 180-deg out of whack, it's time to re-visit your world view and assumptions.

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by jessaustin on Monday March 05, 2018 @05:00PM (#16524862)
Are Democrats and Republicans really 180° apart? From where I sit they seem to waver between 9° and 10° apart... sometimes as much as 12° apart? Much less, of course, when there is a ruinous foreign war to pitch.
Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by stcredzero on Monday March 05, 2018 @05:09PM (#16524966)
Where I'm sitting, authoritarians all look alike to me.
Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by jessaustin on Monday March 05, 2018 @05:32PM (#16525171)
Then why have you always voted for one particular flavor of authoritarian?
Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by stcredzero on Monday March 05, 2018 @05:45PM (#16525263)
Because I was still naive. Because I bought into a narrative I no longer buy into. (Note to the reader: Which narrative do you think I buy into right now? Your answer is data on your biases.)
Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by jessaustin on Monday March 05, 2018 @06:19PM (#16525481)
Since you brought up voting in the first place, I'd guess that you're still hooked on the narrative that claims "Voting is important!"

Meaningless gestures don't gain meaning just because we wish it were so.

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by stcredzero on Monday March 05, 2018 @10:49PM (#16526725)
Since you brought up voting in the first place, I'd guess that you're still hooked on the narrative that claims "Voting is important!"

That's not a good inference. Before I answer, let me ask you: Do you think the election of Trump is at all significant?

Meaningless gestures don't gain meaning just because we wish it were so.

The subject of discussion was my political affiliation, not whether my votes were significant. So your sentence is a bit of a non-sequitur.

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by jessaustin on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @10:17AM (#16529318)
Of course not. Trump is Obama II, or perhaps we should say Bush Jr. III. Even the dim hopes some naive souls harbored that somehow he would be less militarist than his predecessors have evaporated by now.

The significance of Trump's election, if any can be said to exist, is that from now on all of our chief executives will be reality TV stars. Is that progress?

You think you're being clever, asking all these questions before making any firm statement. The downvoters seem to have seen through the mask?

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by stcredzero on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @05:20PM (#16532617)
The significance of Trump's election, if any can be said to exist, is that from now on all of our chief executives will be reality TV stars.

JFK was the first candidate to embrace Television. Perhaps Trump, being a part of the same lurid show, is the first candidate to realize how hollowed-out the media based on that technology has become.

Is that progress?

It's the classic creative destruction in the media.

You think you're being clever, asking all these questions before making any firm statement.

One of the best ways to judge someone is to see how they make decisions and predictions, and to observe on what information those are based upon.

The downvoters seem to have seen through the mask?

It's not possible to make judgements as above from the downvotes. It seems you should have noted that.

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by AFNobody on Monday March 05, 2018 @06:05PM (#16525392)
So your argument now is Republicans are "Leftists"?
Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by stcredzero on Monday March 05, 2018 @11:11PM (#16526799)
No. I certainly don't disagree that Republicans also finagle with laws and regulations for their own interests, to the detriment of the public. Perhaps this is the source of your confusion.

The Far-Left is the group which currently has enough power to attempt the silencing of others to the detriment of free speech, and get away with it on a widespread basis. It does so on a daily basis, with the help of corporate power.

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by AFNobody on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @10:22AM (#16529347)
And what do you call refusing to run special elections illegally and passing anti-speech laws at the state level exactly?

The GOP does that as well and pretending its only one side is absurd on many levels.

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by stcredzero on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @05:27PM (#16532672)
And what do you call refusing to run special elections illegally

Election shenanigans, not Free Speech per se.

and passing anti-speech laws at the state level exactly?

Those should also be fought, no matter who is doing it.

The GOP does that as well and pretending its only one side is absurd on many levels.

The lion's share of the mainstream media is biased to the left, and even at first many in the mainstream media gave a free pass to even to Antifa. It's well known that the GOP has an advantage in local politics. No one is pretending this isn't the case. However, the widespread conceit that the mainstream news is anywhere near unbiased still needs debunking. Badly. As in, society's survival is at stake levels of badly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qmiPWgCYb4

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by dragonwriter on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @05:34PM (#16532715)
> The lion's share of the mainstream media is biased to the left,

No, it's not. The lions share of media workers may have left-of-center leanings, but media firms aren't coops, so that doesn't actually matter; old media corporations are not owned and run by leftists, or even left-of-center-ists.

The mainstream media may be getting increasingly distant from the Republican Party by standing still (or, at least, moving to the right more slowly), politically, while the Republican Party continues the sprint to the far right that it's been doing since the moment the Democratic Party, led—dragged, really—by Bill Clinton, itself shifted right to form the center-right neoliberal consensus of the early 1990s.

(I call this response an “Overton Slingshot”, because while the tactical move to the right by Dems may have had short term electoral benefits for those left of center in getting slightly less conservative Democrats elected over Republicans—though whether it had any tactical value is itself highly debatable—it definitely was a long term disaster for them in the way it shifted the Overton Window.)

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by stcredzero on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @07:39PM (#16533460)
The lions share of media workers may have left-of-center leanings

An analysis of the product indicates a clear bias. The left-leaning biased organizations far outnumber the right-biased ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qmiPWgCYb4

since the moment the Democratic Party, led—dragged, really—by Bill Clinton, itself shifted right to form the center-right neoliberal consensus of the early 1990s.

In most western democracies, it's the center which needs to be allied with the administration in order to govern.

The shift isn't to the right. The failed embracing of Identity Politics and Intersectionality by Hillary was the final stage of a massive shift of the Democratic party in the center under Bill Clinton far to the left. Much of that was overseen by Obama.

Throwing out due process and freedom of speech -- individual rights -- is about as radical-left as you can get. In years past, such specific shifts would have been widely recognized as basically going as far left as Mao. It's basically throwing out the fundamental ideological basis of the United States. Now people are trying to convince people that this is "normal" and wanting such foundational individual rights is "shifting far right." Sorry, but anyone who remembers 10 years ago with a clear head can recognize this as a retcon of US history.

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by AFNobody on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @10:04PM (#16533983)
> The lion's share of the mainstream media is biased to the left

When your positions are so extreme the lion share of the population votes against them, its not hard to find boogeymen.

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by masonic on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @05:30PM (#16532693)

  refusing to run special elections illegally
Examples?
Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by AFNobody on Tuesday March 06, 2018 @10:05PM (#16533984)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/26/eric...

> “Governor Scott Walker’s refusal to hold special elections is an affront to representative democracy,” Holder said in a statement. “Forcing citizens to go more than a year without representation in the general Assembly is a plain violation of their rights, and we’re hopeful the court will act quickly to order the governor to hold elections.”

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by masonic on Thursday March 08, 2018 @08:01PM (#16549106)
From the article:

"The Legislature will be adjourned for 2018 before these seats could be filled in special elections."

Are you disputing the accuracy of that?

Also, you wrote "illegally"... and nothing in that article indicates illegality.