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Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by specialist on Monday March 05, 2018 @02:22PM (#16523605)
"...now wielded by the Far Left..."

What is my tribe accused of this time?

My peeps are trying to expand broadband, so I guess none of us got the memo.

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by stcredzero on Monday March 05, 2018 @02:37PM (#16523707)
What is my tribe accused of this time?

Kicking out groups that don't hew to the party-line on YouTube. Not only the genuinely far-right, but also moderates, mainstream Republicans, and various sub-cultural enthusiasts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTI4Bm5OxkU

My peeps are trying to expand broadband, so I guess none of us got the memo.

As I referenced above, old-media interests and local interests oppose the expansion of broadband (as well as broadly defined Net Neutrality) in order to preserve an old-media status quo. Google Fiber, had it been successful, would have been a competitive force against this, destroying the barriers which keep Cable and old-media from being completely washed away. If "your peeps" had succeeded, I suspect "Adpocalypse" wouldn't have happened. YouTube and the like would have done something about ISIS videos, stopped around there, then told the mainstream corporate ad-money to just deal with the rest or go screw. As it is, the status-quo corporate money is being used as leverage against new media through YouTube.

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by specialist on Monday March 05, 2018 @03:37PM (#16524153)
Sorry, I’m losing the narrative:

Was the Far Left for or against Google Fiber?

More residential broadband (last mile) competition would have saved online advertising?

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by stcredzero on Monday March 05, 2018 @04:15PM (#16524465)
Was the Far Left for or against Google Fiber?

For. However they are against actual Free Speech unmolested by censorship from corporate giants, and they would not have such power on their side, had Google Fiber succeeded.

More residential broadband (last mile) competition would have saved online advertising?

It would have let Tech kill off old media, or at least kill it off sooner, which would have changed the market power of old media's ad money.

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by pas on Monday March 05, 2018 @02:44PM (#16523764)
Could you tl;dr the video please?

> as well as broadly defined Net Neutrality

I don't really see how enforcing the decoupling of ISPs from other sectors hurts competition in the ISP space, but I'm interested in what am I missing, so if you could write out the argument in detail, that'd be great, thanks!

> As it is, the status-quo corporate money is being used as leverage against new media through YouTube.

Could you help with understanding this, maybe by providing some examples?

Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by stcredzero on Monday March 05, 2018 @06:48PM (#16525664)
Re:Eight Years On, Google Fiber Is a Faint Echo of the Disru... by stcredzero on Monday March 05, 2018 @03:22PM (#16524034)
Could you tl;dr the video please?

Authoritarians are now (disingenuously) using Libertarian arguments to justify corporatist non-state censorship.

I don't really see how enforcing the decoupling of ISPs from other sectors hurts competition in the ISP space

Does such a decoupling (in truth and in actual effect) necessarily follow from the former Net Neutrality regime under Obama, or from the elimination of that under Trump? I don't think such a decoupling in truth and in actual effect really follows from either.

Could you help with understanding this, maybe by providing some examples?

Watch the video. Part and parcel of the thing which "Adpocalypse" is a part of, is a push from the Far-Left to re-label just about every political view to the right of Bernie Sanders to mainstream Republicans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0IYzF-zLMw

Also, Tim Pool, who became famous for covering Occupy, covers this general process in depth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Wlt1TsS-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiXvBuYc1cI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGEwZVplBt8