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Re:Here Come the Fake Videos, Too by runeks on Monday March 05, 2018 @04:12AM (#16519742)
Anyone else rather unimpressed by the realism of these fake videos? I mean, technologically it’s cool and all, but it seems more like a proof of concept than anything that can be used to fool humans.

All the videos I’ve watched — out of technical curiosity, naturally — have had some sort of glitch that made it obvious it was fake. I think this technology will have a serious problems just mapping the facial expressions of one person onto another, since many people have their own distinct facial expressions.

The linked YouTube channel with the Putin video[1] is a good example: it looks completely unrealistic because the actor in the source video makes facial expressions Putin would never make.

In my personal opinion, I think it will take decades before this technology becomes good enough to fool humans, and probably longer before it can fool humans closely related to the subjects of the fake videos — if this ever becomes possible at all. The fundamental challenge is mapping the emotions of one person to another’s, which isn’t easily solvable. Just mapping the facial features of Putin onto SNL’s Beck Bennett isn’t going to convince anyone familiar with how Putin looks and acts.

[1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKxFqxCaQcM

Re:Here Come the Fake Videos, Too by adamnemecek on Monday March 05, 2018 @04:15AM (#16519760)
Here’s the thing, they don’t need to convince you, even five percent of people seeing this is enough. Bombard them with this nonstop and like legit warp their reality so that they believe it. This vocal minority can influence quite a bit of the rest of society.
Re:Here Come the Fake Videos, Too by mattmanser on Monday March 05, 2018 @05:49AM (#16520144)
1. The tech's only get better

2. Hire an actor with a similar build/face to putin and act like him. Get him to film what you want, deepfake it, done.

Re:Here Come the Fake Videos, Too by jcims on Monday March 05, 2018 @04:22AM (#16519795)
Eh - https://vimeo.com/257360045

Definitely not perfect, but this is hobbyist grade work. With the recent work around parallelized WaveNet synthesizing 10 seconds of audio for every second of wall clock time, a live fake that fools 50% of regular people is probably a couple of years away at most. Particularly if you can control the setting to ensure lighting/angles/etc match up reasonably well.

Re:Here Come the Fake Videos, Too by tomclive on Monday March 05, 2018 @05:01AM (#16519962)
That's more realistic than some I've seen but it reminds me more of Paul Rudd from his body language.
Re:Here Come the Fake Videos, Too by dawnerd on Monday March 05, 2018 @04:49AM (#16519921)
Wouldn't have even thought that looked like him, still have trouble seeing it.
Re:Here Come the Fake Videos, Too by saurik on Monday March 05, 2018 @07:54AM (#16520688)
I am starting to wonder if this concept simply works better for some viewers than others. I seem to always very deeply notice that the shape of the head is always sort of wrong... I'm wondering if I use "shape of head and typical hairstyle" as a major way I recognize people. Maybe other people are really focussing on facial features like "lips eyes and nose"? Honestly, what I keep thinking when I see stuff like this is "this just looks like Paul Rudd wearing a lot of makeup" not "this looks like Jimmy Fallon with a narrower head and a different hairstyle".
Re:Here Come the Fake Videos, Too by justonepost on Monday March 05, 2018 @04:16AM (#16519766)
Some of them are pretty incredible - you can not tell at all they are fakes. I think it depends on how close the face matches the person being faked and how generic the lighting is. If you scroll down in the OP article you'll see some impressive examples.