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Re:Show HN: My embarrassing personal website from the 90s by TheGRS on Friday March 02, 2018 @04:41PM (#16506007)
Most who were just tinkering still posted to something like geocities, but I agree that spirit has been lost. What do they do in middle school / high school web development classes these days anyway? Kind of the appeal 20 years ago was that you could learn HTML pretty easily and whip up a simple personal website like this and have fun doing it. It didn't exactly "teach" much, at least in my experience, but it was inspirational in a lot of ways.

When I took a class like that we used Dreamweaver (after writing some pages in notepad of course) and later Flash. Never learned Javascript back then, in fact our teacher encouraged us to check it out, but it wasn't part of the curriculum. It was mostly a class for anyone interested in dipping their toe in the web without any prior experience.

Re:Show HN: My embarrassing personal website from the 90s by irrational on Friday March 02, 2018 @06:51PM (#16506818)
This is something I've struggled with. When I think of introducing people to web development I think about how I got my start - creating a website to display pictures of my newborn daughter in 1997. Only, who would do such a thing these days? People would just post those to Facebook or Instagram. Creating a web app is too much too soon in my opinion. What is a good project that has relevance in 2018, but doesn't require anything more than vanilla HTML, CSS, and JS?
Re:Show HN: My embarrassing personal website from the 90s by mmphosis on Friday March 02, 2018 @09:37PM (#16507528)
> Only, who would do such a thing these days?

I would. The corporate sites you mention are cumbersome and detrimental.

Yes, creating a web app is too much, and so is a project, in my opinion. A web document is all that might be needed:

  <html><head><title>website</title></head>
  <body><img src="newborn.png"></body></html>
Re:Show HN: My embarrassing personal website from the 90s by flukus on Monday March 05, 2018 @07:25PM (#16525869)
Isn't that overkill as well? Not sure on the current state of ftp support but I think firefox still allows ftp browsing. We had protocols and programs dedicated to sharing stuff like this before we put them behind commercial walls.
Re:Show HN: My embarrassing personal website from the 90s by heavenlyblue on Saturday March 03, 2018 @07:58AM (#16509097)
A marketing landing page is a good example.
Re:Show HN: My embarrassing personal website from the 90s by saagarjha on Friday March 02, 2018 @06:41PM (#16506767)
A lot of web development curriculum these days tends to focus on writing apps with JavaScript, or learning a new library. HTML/CSS is still taught, but I feel the “HTML is not a real language” sort of drives people away.
Re:Show HN: My embarrassing personal website from the 90s by rtpg on Friday March 02, 2018 @11:10PM (#16507818)
A big difficulty is that HTML by itself doesn't give you good ways to define templates so it's a pretty dreadful task.

Web components can change that in the future but until that it's pretty normal for developers to opt for tools that allow for creating a HTML fragment and building up HTML in another language.

Imagine if we had to do the c calling convention song and dance on every function call...

Re:Show HN: My embarrassing personal website from the 90s by Rumudiez on Saturday March 03, 2018 @12:23AM (#16508046)
There are plenty of simple templating options still out there. Twig, handlebars, and jekyll would all be good introductions in my opinion
Re:Show HN: My embarrassing personal website from the 90s by vikiomega9 on Friday March 02, 2018 @05:58PM (#16506543)
geocities simply made it "free" to publish on the web I thought? As opposed to being a platform that enforced complex policies
Re:Show HN: My embarrassing personal website from the 90s by TheGRS on Monday March 05, 2018 @06:55PM (#16525711)
Sure, but you still had to host their advertisements. I would consider it a platform, but I also wouldn't compare it to facebook.