Schools are safer than they were in the 90s

Re:Schools are safer than they were in the 90s by DanBC on Friday March 02, 2018 @11:44AM (#16503102)

https://twitter.com/CoyoteToledo/status/966832602383552513

   US: I'm on fire 
   CANADA: jump in the water 
   US: water won't work, i need more fire 
   UK: we used water when we caught fire 
   US: it won't work for us we like fire too much 
   US: I'm burning 
   AUSTRALIA: here is a video of water putting out fire 
   US: *stuffs fire in pockets*

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Re:Schools are safer than they were in the 90s by mieseratte on Friday March 02, 2018 @11:57AM (#16503283)

> CANADA: jump in the water

Canada has a comparably high-rate of gun ownership and yet a substantially lower murder rate. I've seen plenty of pissing and moaning on firearm forums about their restrictions, more severe than the US', but one could reasonably carry out a massacre up there just as much as one can in the states.

It's not the guns. It's us.

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Re:Schools are safer than they were in the 90s by theluketaylor on Friday March 02, 2018 @12:14PM (#16503497)

Our most right wing national newspaper did a look at many mass shootings in the US and how that same scenario would play out in Canada. The overall conclusion is that not all the shootings could have been prevented by Canadian firearms laws, but many would have been. Interesting read.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/would-canadian-gun-laws-...

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Re:Schools are safer than they were in the 90s by mieseratte on Friday March 02, 2018 @02:36PM (#16504892)

That's a great article, but something has me doubt that a lot of the "probably not" incidents would have been stopped is that they often hinge on the RCMP having a mere suspicion.

> The shooter, army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, had been investigated by federal authorities for links to terrorism. This would likely be enough for the RCMP to restrict his ability

When a PAL is denied, does one have the right to appeal or is that the final word on the matter? In the US the NICS background check has something similar, the Delay. If, in the course of your FFL background check, the Feds think you're up to something they issue a Delay which can be followed up with a Deny or the go-ahead to sell the firearm. One can appeal a Deny, however there is no way of handling a Delay which is particularly annoying since something as benign as having a similar name to a known criminal can result in one.

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Re:Schools are safer than they were in the 90s by jdanp on Friday March 02, 2018 @11:52AM (#16503227)

Actually crime rates in Australia and the USA decreased similarly in the period following Australia's gun ban, despite America's inaction.

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Re:Schools are safer than they were in the 90s by dvanduzer on Friday March 02, 2018 @12:00PM (#16503338)

Overall crime rate in the US (everywhere?) has decreased since the 1970s or so. There is speculation it had to do with lead paint.

There has not been a single "mass shooting" in Australia since the gun ban. In the US, mass shootings decreased after the Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994, and then increased after it expired 2004.

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Re:Schools are safer than they were in the 90s by jdanp on Friday March 02, 2018 @09:40PM (#16507550)

List of Australian mass shootings since the gun ban https://i.redd.it/i0ovzrr4bgj01.jpg

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