How the West Got China Wrong

Re:How the West Got China Wrong by icebraining on Friday March 02, 2018 @07:40AM (#16500960)

So what? Winning with just a plurality is not uncommon in democracies all over, since when does that make him not democratically elected? Hell, even the US - whose system is designed to only have two candidates - managed to have two Presidents elected without an absolute majority in the the past twenty years.

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Re:How the West Got China Wrong by ekianjo on Friday March 02, 2018 @07:46AM (#16500985)

> On August 22, 1973, the Chamber of Deputies, whose members had been elected just five months earlier, voted 81–47 that Allende’s regime had systematically “destroyed essential elements of institutionality and of the state of law.”

The actual democratic representation was against him by 1973, That's what's important.

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Re:How the West Got China Wrong by icebraining on Friday March 02, 2018 @08:00AM (#16501035)

So was Congress against Obama (they even sued him!), does that make him not democratically elected? Democratic bodies in conflict are common, and mean nothing.

It's telling that the text you quoted has zero actual facts against him, only reports of vague accusations. The name for that is "character assassination".

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Re:How the West Got China Wrong by ekianjo on Friday March 02, 2018 @09:55AM (#16501809)

The point is that at the time of the coup d'etat most of his former allies were against him. That's far from the picture usually painted in books and the mass media of a popular leader loved by his people suddenly betrayed by an evil military force.

> only reports of vague accusations.

Where vague accusations? The economic situation of Chile during his regime went from bad to worse and his directives were directly responsible for it (as proven countless times in countries where the same policies were adopted). Check out the wikipedia page on the economy of Chile during his years.

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Re:How the West Got China Wrong by icebraining on Friday March 02, 2018 @10:53AM (#16502479)

The point is that at the time of the coup d'etat most of his former allies were against him.

You contested the claim that he was democratically elected. I don't see how this is relevant to that claim.

In any case, I don't see evidence that his former allies were against him. Congress wasn't his ally, and besides - as the text you quoted says - there was an election in between, so they weren't all the same people. His allies were the UP, and as far as I can tell, they still supported him.

Finally, losing support from your allies means nothing. That happen just five years ago in my Western European country, and it might happen again soon. It's an expected development in a country with a diverse polity.

Where vague accusations?

"destroyed essential elements of institutionality" and such.

The economic situation of Chile

Which might make him a bad President, but still a democratically-elected one, which was the point being argued.

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Re:How the West Got China Wrong by coldtea on Friday March 02, 2018 @10:56AM (#16502524)

In other words, the fat cats and special interests he annoyed?

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