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Re:Canada to Scrap IBM Payroll Plan Gone Awry Costing $1B by tobtoh on Thursday March 01, 2018 @11:56PM (#16499151)
> The sales guys are at the top. They are generally competent. Proof = they sold a massive deal.

Seems very flawed logic. Anyone can make a sale if you promise everything, charge a low price (that can't sustain your organisation/solution), and have no responsibility for actually being able to deliver within the timeframe they promised.

I fail to see how that shows the sales person is competent.

Re:Canada to Scrap IBM Payroll Plan Gone Awry Costing $1B by raarts on Friday March 02, 2018 @03:05AM (#16499895)
Still, I can confirm from personal experience this is how the world works for many people. Been in multiple companies that went bankrupt because the sales people showed this behavior.
Re:Canada to Scrap IBM Payroll Plan Gone Awry Costing $1B by Arnt on Friday March 02, 2018 @12:46AM (#16499383)
Pretend you're a customer. Would you buy from someone who promises everything at a price that cannot sustain his organisation and accepts no responsibility?
Re:Canada to Scrap IBM Payroll Plan Gone Awry Costing $1B by godzillabrennus on Friday March 02, 2018 @01:46AM (#16499620)
Have you met your local politician who is trying to make decisions on things they don't understand?
Re:Canada to Scrap IBM Payroll Plan Gone Awry Costing $1B by Arnt on Friday March 02, 2018 @03:16AM (#16499927)
I'm an expat. My politicians aren't local.

The two I've spoken to were also both knowledgeable and intelligent, so your rhetoric is glib but a little lacking in factual accuracy.

Re:Canada to Scrap IBM Payroll Plan Gone Awry Costing $1B by Spooky23 on Friday March 02, 2018 @12:22PM (#16503590)
Pretend you are a CIO with an average job tenure of 18-24 months.

Do you give the CEO the right, expensive and difficult answer? Or assign accountability to a third party, bug out and leave the mess to the next guy?

In most companies with mediocre the latter is the answer.