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Re:YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asia... by drwl on Thursday March 01, 2018 @07:20PM (#16497684)
I'm not sure that's an equivalent relation. I wasn't able to read the article, but NBA representation has a lot to do with skill and performance.
Re:YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asia... by tenpies on Thursday March 01, 2018 @07:56PM (#16497914)
Right, the "path" to be an NBA player starts in high school. You ideally get scouted by a college with a top team and after four years you get an offer to play for an NBA team.

This is very similar to how we do admissions for most college education, except now imagine the basketball scout saying "You crushed it out there, but sorry, we have enough %race players this year".

Re:YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asia... by EGreg on Thursday March 01, 2018 @07:30PM (#16497738)
So what?

You seem to be assuming that Black people simply have more skill and performance than others. You do this in Basketball but not in other areas.

Currently, hiring males for programming jobs is due to skill and performance, because far more men chose to go through this type of education than women. Huge numbers of men and women don't enjoy straining to grapple with abstract concepts for long stretches of time, sitting hunched over a keyboard, and so on. But, more men do than women, at the moment. So does that mean things are just fine the way they are, as your comment suggests about being Black and skill and performance?

Why not encourage, for instance, more Chinese basketball players to get scholarships, and increase their skill and performance? Why settle for how things are, which currently is not very diverse as anyone can plainly see?

China's basketball team has a lot of great Chinese players.

Re:YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asia... by ghostcluster on Thursday March 01, 2018 @07:33PM (#16497763)
So when the NBA hires for job qualifications like height, skill and performance, that's OK. But for tech positions they should actively discriminate against skilled applicants because maybe somebody else ought to do it?

The NBA is actively recruiting/training for elite talent in China: http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/12/news/companies/china-nba-bas...

Re:YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asia... by EGreg on Thursday March 01, 2018 @08:25PM (#16498093)
I think you TOTALLY misunderstood my point.

Which was: how come drwl accepts the status quo with NBA and not with programmers? Why do they simply assume that some qualities are more prevalent with Blacks but not with males?

I am not taking a position in my comment one way or the other, just pointing out a potential double standard so the reader can make their own conclusions by reconciling them :)

I assume you are clearly on the side of "things are the way they are because that's how biology works". So here is another one, far more politically charged. Are you prepared to endorse this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United...

"There is general agreement in the literature that blacks are more likely to commit violent crimes than are whites in the United States. Whether this is the case for less serious crimes is less clear."

This statement is considered racist. However the equivalent statement for men and women is not considered sexist: men commit far more violent crime than women.

Therefore, should these things be used in profiling people suspected of violent crime?

You can go on and on about these things.

Re:YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asia... by drwl on Thursday March 01, 2018 @09:58PM (#16498598)
Correct me if I'm not understanding your argument. What I'm reading is that your argument is there is a "diversity" problem in the NBA and that comes from discrimination against non-blacks. And that this is the same discrimination mentioned in the article?
Re:YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asia... by EGreg on Thursday March 01, 2018 @11:33PM (#16499040)
My argument is not that diversity should be increased nor the opposite. It is that there is a double standard.
Re:YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asia... by megaman22 on Thursday March 01, 2018 @07:49PM (#16497860)
There's a lot of individual choice involved in the NBA as well. Elite athletes will be elite athletes, but where they choose to devote their efforts early on has ripple effects long afterwards. It's something of a trope that the best US soccer players are in the NFL or NBA, rather than playing futbol like their European athletic counterparts.

Fun fact: professional basketball was once dominated by inner-city Jews

https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/11/25/when-jews-d...

Re:YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asia... by tux1968 on Friday March 02, 2018 @06:03AM (#16500557)
EVERY job position should be based on skill and performance.