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Re:How to break a smart home, again by FLUX-YOU on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @11:09AM (#16483887)
>Commercial HVAC systems like Liebert dont get 5-6 strikes at the plate to figure out how to avoid shutting off a customers heat in the dead of winter.

There's more money to test in that side of the industry, I'd wager. Unless the people developing commercial HVAC are simply better software/hardware developers than consumer companies' solutions.

Re:How to break a smart home, again by nitrogen on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @11:49AM (#16484303)
Unless the people developing commercial HVAC are simply better software/hardware developers than consumer companies' solutions.

Sometimes this is true, relative to the purpose at hand. Take a mediocre web developer and ask them to build a smarthome system, and you end up with a wire protocol of raw, unverified, unfiltered Python code in plain trxt, running under eval() on a grossly underpowered microcontroller (true story, was fixed eventually AFAIK, not naming names).

There's something to be said for the discipline that comes from working in a resource-constrained hardware/software project. We could benefit from more cross-pollination between industries, as long as experienced engineers are sanity checking the resulting ideas (Python is not a protocol!).

Re:How to break a smart home, again by themaninthedark on Thursday March 01, 2018 @08:33AM (#16491773)
At what point does it become criminal negligence?

If a go kart manufacturer made a kart whose roll over cage failed in any circumstance we would not excuse it by saying that there is more money to test in the automotive side of the industry.

Re:How to break a smart home, again by maxerickson on Thursday March 01, 2018 @09:22AM (#16492183)
They don't necessarily have to be "better" to deliver more reliable products. They have a head start and don't have to aim for the same feature sets that companies like Nest aimed for in their first product.