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Re:China 'holding at least 120,000 Uighurs in re-education c... by neilsimp1 on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @10:59AM (#16483804)
For now, I would say no, only because nobody is getting exterminated. For now.
Re:China 'holding at least 120,000 Uighurs in re-education c... by castle-bravo on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @11:13AM (#16483915)
This is a hypothetical question unrelated to China's activities in Xinjiang: If I take an ethnic group off their land, put them in camps, force them to perform hard labour and prevent them from raising children, but do not murder any of them, could that be considered extermination?
Re:China 'holding at least 120,000 Uighurs in re-education c... by Slansitartop on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @02:30PM (#16485957)
That could be considered "genocide," under many definitions of that term. For instance:

> By "genocide" we mean the destruction of an ethnic group…. Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups….

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_definitions

Re:China 'holding at least 120,000 Uighurs in re-education c... by cromwellian on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @11:47AM (#16484281)
Culture extermination. They’re basically trying to erase the ethnic Muslim culture but not necessarily the people. In that respect it’s not much different than what the US OR Australians did to indigenous peoples.
Re:China 'holding at least 120,000 Uighurs in re-education c... by anthonyleecook on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @12:02PM (#16484478)
Are you seriously whataboutism events that happened few hundred years ago???? Wow. And you work for google. God help us all
Re:China 'holding at least 120,000 Uighurs in re-education c... by cromwellian on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @12:32PM (#16484791)
Hell no and you are interpreting what I said in a crazy fashion. I said they’re trying to exterminate their culture, likening it to similar attempts in the past is not whataboutism.

If there was a holocaust happening where people were being put into camps and gassed and I said “this is just like what the Nazis did”, it would not be whataboutism.

If I compared it to the Japanese internment of WW2, it would not be “whataboutism”

I don’t think you really understand what “whataboutism” is.

Whataboutism seeks to divert attention and justify what is being done by the fact that other wrongs are being done. My comment is not trying to diminish in anyway what they’re doing, but explain what it is they’re trying to achieve by analogy to policies like Stolen Generations or forced assimilations.

I’m not trying to say “we’re just as bad so don’t criticize them”, I’m saying “this is horrible, here’s why, look up the history of how this turned out for others”

sheesh

Re:China 'holding at least 120,000 Uighurs in re-education c... by tome on Wednesday February 28, 2018 @12:52PM (#16484993)
FYI, Nazi concentration camps and Nazi extermination camps were different things.