Re:After rising for 100 years, electricity demand is flat
by dzdt on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @04:18PM
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Unfortunately this is not the case! TVA has a "sell all buy all" rule, that if you are connected to the grid and generate 5kw, you are required to sell all of those 5kw to the grid (at wholesale price). Then you buy back the 4kw you use (at retail price). It doesn't matter if you were only using your own generated power, you still pay. Crazy! I didn't believe it the first time I read it either, but that is really the law they adopted.
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Re:After rising for 100 years, electricity demand is flat
by wahern on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @06:12PM
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All the rule does is prohibit net metering. If you never sell your power on the grid it's irrelevant. So you're free to use your 4kw directly.
Presumably this is a hassle because most equipment is designed for net metering where the system is setup to feed all generated capacity to the grid and consume all energy directly from the grid. So without net-metered billing, to avoid paying the retail premium you'd probably need a very expensive system that eliminates the cost effectiveness.
In fairness, AFAIU most utilities despise net metering. From their perspective they're the ones getting screwed, and the TVA billing system more fairly compensates them for infrastructure costs.
Re:After rising for 100 years, electricity demand is flat
by glandium on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @05:45PM
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Even crazier. In France, the setup is similar: you sell all your energy to EDF, and they sell it back to you. I don't know if that's still the case, but a few years ago, the KWh you pay to them was cheaper than the KWh you sell.
Re:After rising for 100 years, electricity demand is flat
by FullyFunctional on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @08:16PM
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If the selling and the buying happens at different times, then that doesn't seem so crazy. The real cost of electricity is dependent on supply and demand - which varies with time.
In certain parts of USA demand is especially high when the sun is at it's peak and most places on earth see low demand in the middle of the night.