Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to its Silicon Valley

Re:Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to... by gigatexal on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @10:04AM (#16473878)

Would you rather China, now on its way to being led by a dictator no different than a Mugabe-like figure in Africa, gain this talent to be used to bolster state run entitities — you know they’ll use any foreign tech developed on Chinese soil for government purposes — or let a relatively less corrupt, much freer government like the USA bring this talent over to build industry in the states where people are much more free, and you’re not indirectly helping the next chairman Mao?

And to say something so bold as “China is the new USA” is to link the US to things like unending autocratic control, corruption, etc., the list could go on. So no. I disagree. If China wanted to be the new US it would start where the US started and being in the poor, tired, cold etc.,

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Re:Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to... by dtornabene on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @10:58AM (#16474550)

I'm not exactly a fan of Xi, but theres some serious racial overtones in that little screed my friend. China has been an autocratic state for decades, Xi didn't reinvent the wheel here, and, also, while Mugabe sucked, his perception in the west was more than a little colored by racism. This is an excellent discussion, by a renowned South Asian intellectual who was driven out of Africa by no less than Idi Amin.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v30/n23/mahmood-mamdani/lessons-of-zim...

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Re:Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to... by adventured on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @11:04AM (#16474633)

There is in fact absolutely no racial overtones in that screed. It sounds like you simply didn't like it. The parent was very plainly targeting authoritarianism. Dictatorship isn't a race.

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Re:Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to... by dtornabene on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @11:16AM (#16474808)

I'm curious, in what possible way is Xi "mugabe-like", what does that even mean? I'm also bowing out of this thread because I don't see anything positive coming out of your reading of me or of my reading of the parent. You might take some time, admittedly a bit, to read the article I linked

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Re:Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to... by adventured on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @11:26AM (#16474940)

Mugabe was a dictator for decades. Xi is perhaps about to become a dictator.

Where's the confusion? There are maybe a dozen particularly infamous dictatorships of the last 20-30 years. Mugabe is one of those. Having ruled Zimbabwe for 37 years, he was also one of the longest tenured political figures of the last century. Who would make for a better example? One could certainly use Franco, Chavez, Hussein, or Pinochet. Mugabe is just as legitimate to use as an example.

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Re:Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to... by dtornabene on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @11:29AM (#16474977)

I'm guessing you didn't read the linked article, at all, given that its been ten whole minutes since I commented. For real, bowing out of an unproductive conversation now.

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Re:Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to... by adventured on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @10:26AM (#16474139)

While I agree with your overall point... this:

> If China wanted to be the new US it would start where the US started and being [bring?] in the poor, tired, cold etc.,

China just had a billion of those people, 15-20 years ago. They still have a quarter of a billion people living on less than $3 per day. Maybe they'll get to what you're referring to eventually, assuming their economic expansion survives the shift back to a strong-man dictatorship.

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Re:Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to... by gigatexal on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @04:38PM (#16478193)

that comment you quoted was more a blanket attack at the cold way in which immigration is done. Send us your doctors, your lawyers, your engineers, but keep your poor and the like. That's the motto currently used but it's not what is on the statue of liberty. All should be welcome, and we can educate them, and we'll have those that have an entrepreneurial spirit create industry here in the US vs. elsewhere.

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