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Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by TheLostOne on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @08:45AM (#16473243)
Economy will crash in the next 5 years either way with mass replacement of people by AI (call centers, taxi drivers, truck drivers, ...).

Edit: Plus German car industry will crash either way because most people work not in building cars, but motors, electronics, transmission etc. which are mostly redundant with electric cars.

Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by tyree731 on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @08:47AM (#16473261)
This isn't sound logic. "The economy is going to crash because of reason X, so it's fine to make it crash worse because of reason Y".
Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by TheLostOne on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @09:02AM (#16473372)
No the argument is:

A. No cars, clean air!

B. Don't do this, economy will crash

A. Doesn't scare me, economy will crash either way, keeping cars will not prevent a crash.

Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by igravious on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @09:00AM (#16473351)
I'll take either bet. €1000 says the German economy will not crash in the next 5 years due to the mass replacement of people by AI. Another €1000 says that the transition to electric vehicles will not crash the German vehicle industry. (I've changed your wording from cars to vehicles because I do not see the point of the needless restriction.) Let's say as well if the same person wins both bets they get a bonus €1000.

Sound reasonable and good to you? I mean you do believe in what you're saying, yes?

What's your email address so that I can mail you the contract?

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Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by igravious on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @09:12AM (#16473461)
I never gamble. Effectively what I'm saying is: polite way–"I'm so confident you're spouting rubbish that I'm will to risk €3000 of my money to prove you wrong even though I never gamble." less polite way–"Put up or shut up."

Also I'm from a neighbouring (check out how I spell neighbour for a clue!) EU country so a link to a US gambling site is no use to me. ;-)

Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by TheLostOne on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @09:58AM (#16473827)
I never gamble. I know next time is black.
Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by jacquesm on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @10:06AM (#16473915)
In that case no sweat, take that bet, it is money in your pocket.
Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by govg on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @08:48AM (#16473267)
AI is far from solving these problems to the extent of being deployed world wide.
Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by TheLostOne on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @09:03AM (#16473384)
No it's five years. As the internet changed everything in 10 years, mobile internet changed everything in 5 years. Change will come rapidly not slow.

Also if you're a lawyer

"An AI just beat top lawyers at their own game" https://mashable.com/2018/02/26/ai-beats-humans-at-contracts...

Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by IshKebab on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @09:27AM (#16473570)
That lawyer thing is like saying "a calculator just beat top mathematicians at their own arithmetic" and expecting it to generate replace maths professors within 5 years.

AI is great but it's hilarious to think much will have changed in 5 years. Have a look at the results from the Stanford Question Answering Database if you want to see how far there is still to go.

Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by TheLostOne on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @09:57AM (#16473818)
90% of lawyers do are not top notch defence lawyers. Most of lawyers work in companies and do NDA work.
Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by jacquesm on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @10:08AM (#16473929)
This comment does not parse, and the second part of it makes very little sense. NDA -> Non Disclosure Agreement, that's a fairly standard legal device which definitely does not employ the majority of lawyers in corporations.
Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by Cthulhu_ on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @08:47AM (#16473264)
Just like it did during the industrial revolution with mass replacement of people by machines.
Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by pixl97 on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @09:04AM (#16473391)
Quite a few Luddites starved during those times.
Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by s73v3r_ on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @04:16PM (#16477979)
Most of the farmers were able to get jobs in factories, with little downtime or retraining necessary. What are today's factory workers going to do that's comparable? Remember, they still have rent to pay, food to buy, families to support.
Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by kilotaras on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @10:05AM (#16473901)
One can derive argument for both sides from industrial revolution (not many horses working around), but generalizing from one datapoint isn't the most intellectually robust way to analyze the issue.
Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by TheLostOne on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @09:01AM (#16473363)
No, during the industrial revolution jobs were mostly created. This was at the same time the agricultural sector lost most jobs. With industry 2.0 and people being replaced, these moved into the service industry. Now the service industry is replaced with no where to go.
Re:Diesel cars can be banned from German cities, court rules by Svip on Tuesday February 27, 2018 @08:48AM (#16473270)
50 years, you mean? The technology may be moving fast, but the social/political/financial changes won't.