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Re:Debussy: the musical genius who erupted out of nowhere by JasonFruit on Monday February 26, 2018 @08:16AM (#16465014)
I take some issue with calling La plus que lente a vulgar parody. A parody, yes, but an affectionate, if self-indulgent parody; he said it was written for the taste of "ladies who take tea," and he lavished too much attention on it for it to be vulgar.
Re:Debussy: the musical genius who erupted out of nowhere by stochastic_monk on Monday February 26, 2018 @09:08AM (#16465295)
People today have largely lost the understanding that parody and pastiche are different but related formats.

Both are referential, but pastiches are affectionate and often deferential, while parodies poke fun in a biting, sarcastic way.

Re:Debussy: the musical genius who erupted out of nowhere by JasonFruit on Monday February 26, 2018 @09:55AM (#16465667)
That's not really true, especially in music. For example, think of the term parody mass; it's not poking fun at all. It just employs previously-existing material as a part of a new composition.
Re:Debussy: the musical genius who erupted out of nowhere by stochastic_monk on Monday February 26, 2018 @10:23AM (#16465877)
Really? I've seen the terms "pastiche" and "parody" carefully delineated in scholarly works, though these have been commenting primarily in the classical eras and later, long after the parody masses. Charles Rosen (whose The Romantic Generation is now a classic, if controversial text) in particular has pointed out quite a few works he sees as pastiches as opposed to parodies.
Re:Debussy: the musical genius who erupted out of nowhere by JasonFruit on Monday February 26, 2018 @10:34AM (#16465958)
Maybe I'm especially affected by earlier uses of the term, since I was most focused on parody in the sense of parody masses and musical borrowing in the Baroque. At any rate, I don't think the distinction is as simple as Rosen's usage might suggest (though I really enjoy Charles Rosen).
Re:Debussy: the musical genius who erupted out of nowhere by stochastic_monk on Monday February 26, 2018 @11:23AM (#16466414)
I once saw him perform a recital, including some Liszt. After the recital, I told him I thoroughly enjoyed The Romantic Generation.

His response? "That one has the best jokes."