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Re:China Seeks to Repeal Presidential Term Limit by jadedhacker on Sunday February 25, 2018 @05:59PM (#16461725)
I'm not very familiar with the situation in China, but I will sound a dissenting note here and welcome correcting information by those more knowledgable.

While Xi is certainly acting in his own interest to remove term limits, term limits are a profoundly anti-democratic idea. A politician that is in their final term cannot be pressured by the prospect of an election which is a, if not the, primary mechanism of democracy.

Term limits were only instituted in the United States after FDR terrified the business community by extracting taxes from the wealthy order of over 90%. This was promptly followed by the red scare as the business community fought back to destroy FDR's coalition of progressives, unions, socialists, and communists after he died. One thing they did was impose term limits to reduce electoral pressure on the sitting president by 50%.

Note that, on its face, Xi's plan is the opposite of a lifetime appointment. Lifetime appointments are bad because they reduce electoral pressure by 100%.

Re:China Seeks to Repeal Presidential Term Limit by dexterdog on Sunday February 25, 2018 @06:04PM (#16461747)
The problem is that being able to campaign while abusing the power of the office makes it hard for a challenger to unseat.
Re:China Seeks to Repeal Presidential Term Limit by jadedhacker on Sunday February 25, 2018 @06:06PM (#16461755)
That is true, but that is true for incumbents everywhere.
Re:China Seeks to Repeal Presidential Term Limit by petre on Sunday February 25, 2018 @06:06PM (#16461754)
Term limits should be in fact extended to everyone who holds office, including MPs. What other better way to limit corruption than to rotate the politicians.
Re:China Seeks to Repeal Presidential Term Limit by jadedhacker on Sunday February 25, 2018 @06:14PM (#16461782)
This is an idea that sounds sensible on its surface, but it relies on the theory that it's the politicians that are the problem. It ignores how politics really works, which is that politicians mainly take the positions of the key coalitions to which they owe their power.

This is not a simple concept. Here's an example of how this system breaks down. For instance, in the United States, the Black population has a big problem because the Republicans actively attack their community which means they stick to the Democrats reliably. However, because they can't switch their votes, the Democrats ignore them. Notice that this explains the predicament of the Black community without reference to individual political personalities.

On the other side of the coin, the NRA manages to control the fealty of Republican politicians because it has major influence over voters.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/24/us/politics/nra-gun-contr...

The politicians line up even in the face of screaming children whose friends have been murdered. That's a tough job. That must mean there are substantial incentives for them to do so.

In summary, if you rotate the politicians in the manner you suggested, you actually give the corrupting elements more power rather than less.

EDIT: I would be negligent to say that the Democrats merely ignore the black community. e.g. Hilary Clinton's "superpredator" comments in the 1990's that backed the crime bill that vastly inflated the prison population.

Re:China Seeks to Repeal Presidential Term Limit by zdky on Sunday February 25, 2018 @06:06PM (#16461757)
Good point! Would you prefer to have Obama in office for his 3rd term or Trump?
Re:China Seeks to Repeal Presidential Term Limit by jadedhacker on Sunday February 25, 2018 @06:21PM (#16461808)
I'm not a super Obama fan, but I will say that it would have made Obama's second term better as he would have been more responsive to his base. Trump has continued or intensified many Obama policies, which were in turn inherited from the Bush administration.

On the other side of the coin, imagine a Trump in his second term. If he seems to be acting against his base now, wait until he is free of electoral pressure.

EDIT: While he is acting against some elements of his base (e.g. the tax bill), Trump is making at least some evangelicals who can live with his public persona very happy: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/24/opinion/sunday/donald-tru...