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Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by dang on Saturday February 24, 2018 @06:38PM (#16456159)
> why not leave?

That trope is uncivil, shallow, and predictable, so please don't haul it out here.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by techsupporter on Saturday February 24, 2018 @05:15PM (#16455759)
> Everyone seems to think they have an implicit right to live in the United States.

I disagree with this statement, or at least your belief around the sentiment. To me, the angst seems to come from the United States putting out a welcome mat saying "please, come here and enrich our economy" but then, once someone does arrive, he or she is treated with near-contempt, especially if the person is from the "wrong" country like India or China or Russia or basically anywhere not western Europe, Australia, or Japan.

Debate the number of arrivals or permissions to be given all we want. That's fine and reasonable. But once someone has taken up the United States on its offer to have the person relocate halfway across the globe, TREAT THEM WITH RESPECT. My spouse is a green card holder and has been for many years (and is not a green card holder by virtue of being married to me). If any US citizen had to regularly deal with the USCIS, it would be disbanded within a week. The IRS is more warm and inviting and has better understood rules and processes. And my spouse has the benefit of not being from the "wrong" country but, still, even doing something as simple as renewing a green card involves a trek to the most depressing-looking office building on the planet, a bag and person search that rivals going to an airport, and meeting with a dour clerk who wants my spouse to be in the country almost as little as the clerk wants to be at work that day.

That's just for someone who's already made it through almost all of the hurdles of the U.S. immigration system. To be here on a "temporary" visa like H1B or on TN status is even worse since one wrong word from an immigration officer means you have ten days to self-deport or ICE is coming for you.

It's one thing to say "potential immigrants keep out." It's quite another to abuse the immigrants who have arrived until they give up and quit the country.

(To establish that I'm not ranting because I'm caught by this: I am a natural-born citizen of the United States who, through one parent, has a line of ancestry that traces back to the Mayflower. And I think our immigration system is obnoxious.)

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by UncleEntity on Saturday February 24, 2018 @05:55PM (#16455963)
> ...especially if the person is from the "wrong" country like India or China or Russia or basically anywhere not western Europe, Australia, or Japan.

To be fair we like New Zealanders too...

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by lopmotr on Saturday February 24, 2018 @06:02PM (#16455998)
That's a common attitude in my country too whenever an immigrant complains about anything. "If you don't like it, go back to where you came from". But in fact they do want to be there while at the same time not liking some parts of it. Just like everyone really.

I think locals should follow the same advice. Don't like political lobbying, high house prices, the president, etc? Move to Canada. I personally moved to a country that suited me better. Americans are very reluctant to emigrate for some reason though.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by rvo on Saturday February 24, 2018 @06:15PM (#16456066)
Have been thinking about it, honestly.

I came to this country for about 13 years. I know I dont have a right to live here. But after paying college fees, taxes, various visa fees, etc, I feel some entitlement. I have lived here longer than any other country in my life. Definitely consider is a home, but it is clear most people dont want us here.

Ah well, thats life.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by afutd on Saturday February 24, 2018 @06:21PM (#16456095)
Can we send you back to the lawless borderlands between England and Scotland?
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by lighttower on Saturday February 24, 2018 @11:53PM (#16457209)
You've been reading the book by Thomas Sowell. Though I don't understand why you bring up a reference that's about 300 years old. None of the people in the southern States have any ties to that place
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by throwaway82729 on Saturday February 24, 2018 @05:22PM (#16455796)
Benefits still outweigh the disadvantages. The comparison is being a slave here or having a poor quality of life back home. Both are not desirable.