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Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by klipt on Saturday February 24, 2018 @03:51PM (#16455329)
Think of it this way - does a global company like Apple or Google want to hire just from the best in the US, or the best in the world?

If they hire from the best in the world, is it better for America if those hires are in the US paying US taxes, or overseas paying taxes to some other country?

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by austincheney on Saturday February 24, 2018 @05:39PM (#16455875)
I don't think your first question is valid to the immigration question. Every big company I have worked for simply opens a large office in India (or wherever) when they want to diversity their talent pool or business market. You can hire the best in the world and put them into a corporate office space owned by the company without bringing them into the US.
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by skybrian on Saturday February 24, 2018 @07:15PM (#16456336)
That's true to some extent, but it's not the same. Immigrants working in the U.S. at headquarters will have a different relationship with the rest of your team than people in a remote office 12 timezones away.

If you don't want your teams to be segregated by nationality then you will want people working in same place.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by Consultant32452 on Saturday February 24, 2018 @09:14PM (#16456743)
The corollary is - should US immigration policy be purposed to maximize Apple or Google stock value?
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by klipt on Saturday February 24, 2018 @10:43PM (#16456985)
I was talking more about maximizing tax revenue for the US.
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by Consultant32452 on Saturday February 24, 2018 @11:32PM (#16457146)
Same question. Should immigration policy, or government policy in general be purposed towards maximizing tax revenue? Surely that topic can't be ignored completely, but should it be the driving force of policy?
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by iakh on Saturday February 24, 2018 @11:58PM (#16457216)
If you ask the same question, you'll get the same answer. Yes, why not?
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by Consultant32452 on Sunday February 25, 2018 @12:05AM (#16457231)
Well, I didn't actually get an answer the first time. As to why not, because when I think about the role of government, maximizing tax revenue seems like it would be pretty low on the list of priorities.
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by HillaryBriss on Sunday February 25, 2018 @01:33AM (#16457492)
Yes. It would be too simple to say we must focus on just one single priority.

The US has a big list of priorities: increasing GDP, protecting the environment, protecting laborers, providing medical care, protecting civil rights, enhancing tax revenue, taking care of the elderly, fighting wars, stopping disease outbreaks, curing cancer, exploring the solar system, patrolling the border, educating children, feeding everyone -- the list goes on and on.

All these arguments are about rebalancing and reordering these priorities.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by jimmaswell on Sunday February 25, 2018 @01:06AM (#16457406)
Another perspective: does a global company like Apple or Google want to hire just from the cheapest in the US, or the cheapest in the world?
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by klipt on Sunday February 25, 2018 @04:27PM (#16461249)
If they wanted cheap, why would they put their HQs in Silicon Valley?

Google has an office in freaking Paris. It's not like international hires choose Silicon Valley over Paris because they're enamored with overpriced suburban living. It's just because they need to be at the HQ for better career advancement.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by HillaryBriss on Sunday February 25, 2018 @01:28AM (#16457474)
oh man. so great. the other side of the same coin.
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by TheAdamAndChe on Saturday February 24, 2018 @05:27PM (#16455822)
Should the US government cater only to multinational corporations? Even when doing so leads to a declining quality of life for its citizens?
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by landryraccoon on Saturday February 24, 2018 @11:01PM (#16457044)
Every American's quality of life will go down when the next generation of tech companies that dominate the world economy come out of China and not the US because they can attract better people.
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by HillaryBriss on Sunday February 25, 2018 @01:42AM (#16457523)
Can you explain that more? Does quality of life go down in every country which doesn't "attract better people?"

Did quality of life go up in China because it "attracted better people" or were there other reasons?

One of the things your comment made me think about is the US citizens I know who have relocated to other "less developed" countries in order to make their quality of life go _up_.

Does the quality of life for people in Japan go down because Google is headquartered in the US?

As a US resident, would my quality of life go down if Microsoft were headquartered in India, Facebook in Singapore, Google in Denmark, and Apple in Japan?

It all seems rather complicated and murky.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by gowld on Sunday February 25, 2018 @01:24PM (#16460321)
Chinese companies may attract better people, but people who live outside of China don't find China attractive.