Who's Missing from America's Colleges? Rural High School Graduates

Re:Who's Missing from America's Colleges? Rural High School ... by tr0ut on Friday February 23, 2018 @11:03AM (#16447126)

So either you're not from the States or you were well funded in your own educational pursuits. Both are fine this, is not a personal attack.

It is not hard to find evidence that American university is outrageously expensive. And for what is the average result? You learned the theory/basics of X subject? Or you met cool people and had a good time?

I think we're getting to the point that it is not worth it for a common job and certainly not for a common job in tech.

(Not arguing medicine or advanced science/engineering degrees!)

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Re:Who's Missing from America's Colleges? Rural High School ... by emodendroket on Friday February 23, 2018 @11:13AM (#16447190)

Even in the crudest measure, lifetime earnings, going to college still looks pretty good. Getting a tech job in the first place is much easier if you have a degree. This is not to deny that some have managed without it and have done very well, but they walked a harder road to get there.

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Re:Who's Missing from America's Colleges? Rural High School ... by tr0ut on Friday February 23, 2018 @11:19AM (#16447243)

At what cost? $100k in debt and delayed start at life? Again if all things are equal. Uni is free, sure why not.

This argument is invalid too. We can say most that go to college are better off thus the net positive results.

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Re:Who's Missing from America's Colleges? Rural High School ... by emodendroket on Friday February 23, 2018 @11:24AM (#16447275)

I agree that college is too expensive but I don't agree that the answer is to stop letting people go.

You have to weigh the lack of debt and the "head start" against the fact that many doors will be shut to you without a degree.

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Re:Who's Missing from America's Colleges? Rural High School ... by tr0ut on Friday February 23, 2018 @11:26AM (#16447291)

Who said stop letting them go?

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Re:Who's Missing from America's Colleges? Rural High School ... by emodendroket on Friday February 23, 2018 @11:39AM (#16447404)

At the very least you're arguing fewer people should be encouraged to go, are you not?

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Re:Who's Missing from America's Colleges? Rural High School ... by tr0ut on Friday February 23, 2018 @12:06PM (#16447595)

I don't mean zero-sum. I mean another means. One which requires more on the job training and working your way up the ladder.

If you want to go because you have the resources and for every other reason other than I need to get a degree to work and live. Than have a blast.

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