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Re:Worst Roommate Ever by microcolonel on Friday February 23, 2018 @08:44AM (#16446233)
> ...than the persons renting out a house they don't need.

Is a camera rental company just "renting out cameras they don't need"? Maintaining rental properties is a livelihood, a bad faith tenant is just as abusive as a bad faith landlord.

People buy properties on loans to rent them out, when a tenant refuses to pay the rent, the utilities and the loan payments fall to the landlord. The obvious effect of this is that only people who can afford to lease and rent many properties out at once to spread the cost of this can become landlords.

Furthermore, if this dwelling is some part of an existing home, and you can't evict them for violating the lease agreement, then you have unwanted strangers who don't care about you, forcibly staying in your own home. You don't have to be a steenking bourgeois to own a home, and you don't need to be "advantaged" to draw the short end of this straw.

Some countries have a mix of laws for tenant relations, for example sublet agreements in some places are afforded little or none of the extreme tenant rights that direct let agreements are. That would likely have helped in this article's situation.

Re:Worst Roommate Ever by jacobolus on Friday February 23, 2018 @09:14AM (#16446390)
If it destroyed someone's life to go without a camera then this would be a reasonable analogy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_housing

Re:Worst Roommate Ever by closeparen on Friday February 23, 2018 @12:34PM (#16447807)
If you want a closer analogy, we don’t require grocery stores to tolerate shoplifters; we have food stamps and soup kitchens.
Re:Worst Roommate Ever by jacobolus on Friday February 23, 2018 @01:24PM (#16448174)
Do you think immediate eviction as a remedy for late rent is comparable to fines for shoplifting?

If we had adequate state-provided housing available at short notice for any household, as a social safety net, then laws about eviction could be considerably stricter without violating renter’s basic human rights. I doubt you’ll find much support for that policy change from landlords though; the competition would likely reduce prevailing rents quite a bit.

Clearly tenant rights aren’t (and shouldn’t be) unlimited, but the protections for tenants currently in place were established to counter bad abuses by landlords.

Various measures to preventing shoplifting (whether food or cameras) are not really comparable in my opinion.

Re:Worst Roommate Ever by microcolonel on Friday February 23, 2018 @10:07AM (#16446691)
It destroys a landlord's life if their primary asset is turned unfairly into a liability.
Re:Worst Roommate Ever by lagadu on Friday February 23, 2018 @03:26PM (#16449234)
That's what's usually known as risk. They invested in an asset to provide their livelihood, that form of income has a set of risks associated with it, just like having a job carries a risk of losing it or how investing in securities carries its own risk.

How much are we willing to protect the investor from risk, in this particular case, at the potential expense of a tenant's ability to have shelter? Obviously we need some form of balance but the finer details of it are wildly arguable.

Re:Worst Roommate Ever by Khol on Friday February 23, 2018 @10:30AM (#16446884)
So you're suggesting that because they have the ability to buy additional housing and charge people to use it, someone else should bear the risk?
Re:Worst Roommate Ever by cgmg on Friday February 23, 2018 @12:36PM (#16447829)
What?
Re:Worst Roommate Ever by xor1 on Friday February 23, 2018 @10:33PM (#16451492)
All investments carry risk.