China's Xinjiang surveillance is the dystopian future nobody wants

Re:China's Xinjiang surveillance is the dystopian future nob... by lambdadmitry on Friday February 23, 2018 @03:40AM (#16445021)

I wonder if that kind of authoritarianism can already be qualified as fascism. Declared total unity of state, people and industry? Check. Militarism? Check. Indifference to violence? Check. Concentration camps, mass political persecutions, expansionism? All there.

When does it cross the line from bad to Hitler?

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Re:China's Xinjiang surveillance is the dystopian future nob... by Nomentatus on Saturday February 24, 2018 @12:27AM (#16451872)

Marx called it "Bonapartism" (after Napoleon), certainly if the authority truly centered upon one leader. He wasn't for it, to say the least.

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Re:China's Xinjiang surveillance is the dystopian future nob... by eponeponepon on Friday February 23, 2018 @04:23AM (#16445196)

There's no line between bad and Hitler - the Nazis were bad because (in naïve, coarse terms) they crossed the line between bad and good.

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Re:China's Xinjiang surveillance is the dystopian future nob... by Nomentatus on Saturday February 24, 2018 @12:31AM (#16451887)

So the NSA was bad - violated the laws and constitution according to the U.S. Courts, therefore we're already at Hitler? What they did was bad. On the road to Hitler, maybe, but not there yet, surely.

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Re:China's Xinjiang surveillance is the dystopian future nob... by dragonwriter on Saturday February 24, 2018 @12:43AM (#16451924)

> When does it cross the line from bad to Hitler?

There's no line; fascism is a subset of bad, not a separate category.

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