Re:Taiwan ban single-use plastic straws, plastic bags, dispo...
by shaki-dora on Thursday February 22, 2018 @02:18PM
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So... Your solution is "plastic isn't bad" as well as "whatabout paper?" and "don't mention the fish, because their cuteness makes us irrational" and "politicians are stupid"?
Color me unconvinced.
Re:Taiwan ban single-use plastic straws, plastic bags, dispo...
by kodablah on Thursday February 22, 2018 @02:20PM
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I think you misread. I didn't offer a solution. I just mentioned inconsistency and the reason why. Your reading is purposefully uncharitable and makes it impossible to have these kinds of discussions rationally.
Re:Taiwan ban single-use plastic straws, plastic bags, dispo...
by yesenadam on Thursday February 22, 2018 @03:11PM
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>Your reading is purposefully uncharitable and makes it impossible to have these kinds of discussions rationally.
That's an assumption of bad faith. Now that is something that makes rational discussion impossible. You seem to see yourself as totally above the person talking with you, because you're just "rational". But you continually appeal to emotion yourself, and that emotion is fear:
"it's a slippery slope", "prohibitionists", "using the long arm of the law" (to describe a 5p charge), "regressive", "dangerous question","interminable lists of laws" etc
Re:Taiwan ban single-use plastic straws, plastic bags, dispo...
by tpm on Thursday February 22, 2018 @04:20PM
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Solving this problem affects everyone. Not solving this problem affects everyone. This is the nature of global environmental problems.
Yes, outlawing most of plastic packaging, additives etc. is probably going to happen sooner or later in some parts of the world. With China now banning imports of plastic garbage, the process has already started.
This is probably not related to plastic bags, but still interesting: 73% of deep sea fish ingested plastic https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0219/941718-plastics/
I could put forth a guess or two on attempts at action, but I am not familiar enough with the science to argue them wholeheartedly. But I can say the political decisions are rarely science based and more often based on perceived righteousness (which is why it's a tax and not illegal).