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Re:Signal Foundation by philipov on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @06:59PM (#16434066)
I thought that ended with the government getting into the phone using an exploit, just without forcing Apple's cooperation.
Re:Signal Foundation by jsmthrowaway on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @06:59PM (#16434068)
Hence the hardened part. That exploit doesn’t work against any later model, and they spent a lot of money to get into that particular phone. Even with that observation, how can one claim “very insecure?” Do you think it’s that difficult to compromise a PC with physical access? What does secure even mean to people any more?

I trust my phone a hell of a lot more than any general purpose computing platform, and I’d say the same if I owned any number of a significant collection of Android devices. This isn’t phone vs. phone advocacy, just annoyance at opinions that people disingenuously consider factual, useful observations on security.

Re:Signal Foundation by theptip on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @07:10PM (#16434129)
Only after they paid an Israeli security company for a 0-day vulnerability, which allegedly cost north of $1m.

Interested to know how that amount compares to other OSes, I really don't know what the going rate is on Windows/Linux.

Re:Signal Foundation by danieldk on Thursday February 22, 2018 @01:59AM (#16435757)
And this was a vulnerability that concerned an iPhone 5c, which did not have a secure enclave. The iPhone 5s was the first model with Touch ID and an secure enclave.

https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/226164-fbis-iphone-hack-l...