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Re:Signal Foundation by mtgx on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @02:00PM (#16431942)
When is the ICO?

No, I'm not kidding. Look at Telegram. Who would've thought an open source project would ever get close to a billion dollars in funding?

I don't want Signal to wither away or forever remain a niche chat application because of lack of funding, especially if Moxie one day decides he wants to pursue some other dreams of his and doesn't have time to deal with Signal anymore.

Re:Signal Foundation by rrdharan on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @02:17PM (#16432076)
This seems like a much better setup - $50M and setup as a 501(c)3 - rather than taking on the weird regulatory risk and all the other weirdness associated with Telegram's (IMO crazy) ICO:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbloomberg/2018/02/17/teleg...

Re:Signal Foundation by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @02:54PM (#16432406)
> taking on the weird regulatory risk and all the other weirdness associated with Telegram's (IMO crazy) ICO

To make this more tangible, doing an ICO means a prosecutor can personally threaten anyone on the team with violating securities laws. That's a stupid risk to take if you know, as an organization, you're going to fight the U.S. government in court one day.

Re:Signal Foundation by mtgx on Thursday February 22, 2018 @10:02AM (#16437960)
I watched the recent hearing on cryptocurrency. The SEC guy seemed to suggest that ICOs need to "register with the SEC" as a security. If they do that and talk to SEC how to best do this, then I think they would be fine?

I think Filecoin did something similar.

Re:Signal Foundation by xwvvvvwx on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @02:16PM (#16432075)
Moxie is already working on a cryptocurrency project: https://www.mobilecoin.com/
Re:Signal Foundation by emmanuelindex on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @05:16PM (#16433473)
yes, he's working on Mobilecoin since the beginning. I'm wondering when it will ship and if it will be the first project of the Signal foundation.
Re:Signal Foundation by r3bl on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @06:42PM (#16433979)
Last paragraph in the whitepaper:

> MobileCoin is designed so that a mobile messaging application like WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, or Signal could integrate with a MobileCoin wallet.

Pretty sure we're gonna see a separate product that works with IM apps when installed simultaneously.

Re:Signal Foundation by tptacek on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @02:38PM (#16432272)
This post explains why they've never taken investor money.
Re:Signal Foundation by davesque on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @02:40PM (#16432296)
I think the simple answer is that ICOs are too risky and involve too many unknowns.

By the way, were you actually associated with Mt. Gox or is that account name just for kicks?

Re:Signal Foundation by tgragnato on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @02:20PM (#16432108)
Such a sum can be dangerous, especially if you're used to a team of 7. But it's also dangerous to dismiss or discourage this kind of experiments.

> We believe there is an opportunity to act in the public interest and make a meaningful contribution to society by building sustainable technology that respects users and does not rely on the commoditization of personal data.

Re:Signal Foundation by hinkley on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @04:54PM (#16433333)
That sum is only dangerous if they aren't getting good advice from people with experience in nonprofits.

If they treat a big chunk of that as an endowment and go after more funding every few years to top off the coffers, they could live on that kind of money for ages.

Re:Signal Foundation by XR0CSWV3h3kZWg on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @04:58PM (#16433369)
What would be the incentive to buy?