Re:Japanese 'Prince' Switched at Birth Was Raised a Pauper
by neaden on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @12:42PM
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Can you explain what you mean? This definition for meritocracy: "government or the holding of power by people selected on the basis of their ability." says nothing about fairness. If people are able to gain increased ability based on privilege than you have an unfair meritocracy. Since it is pretty clear that you can indeed do this, through parental involvement, tutoring, nutrition, better medical care, etc. than it follows that meritocracy is not fair.
Re:Japanese 'Prince' Switched at Birth Was Raised a Pauper
by frgtpsswrdlame on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @12:46PM
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There's lots of definitions, I think this one is probably closer to what we think of when discussing meritocracy:
an elite group of people whose progress is based on ability and talent rather than on class privilege or wealth
Re:Japanese 'Prince' Switched at Birth Was Raised a Pauper
by neaden on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @12:49PM
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There is still no conflict though, so long as class privilege and wealth can be transformed into ability and talent.
Re:Japanese 'Prince' Switched at Birth Was Raised a Pauper
by frgtpsswrdlame on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @01:15PM
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Well no because the definition is 'rather than class privilege or wealth.' Transforming wealth into ability and talent is class privilege.
Re:Japanese 'Prince' Switched at Birth Was Raised a Pauper
by khedoros1 on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @02:21PM
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If ability comes from wealth, it's still ability. I'd read "rather than class privilege or wealth" to mean that those things aren't considered merits in and of themselves, except to the degree that they can help someone achieve their full potential.
Re:Japanese 'Prince' Switched at Birth Was Raised a Pauper
by sh33mp on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @12:44PM
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Meritocracy is very much in conflict with equality. Meritocracy means you are judged on your merit. It is completely orthogonal to a nature-vs-nurture argument.
For example, this is exactly the sort of debate we've been having in Singapore, which prides itself on being a highly 'meritocratic', which consequently people have criticized for exacerbating income/social inequality.
Re:Japanese 'Prince' Switched at Birth Was Raised a Pauper
by abritinthebay on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @01:02PM
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Equality vs equity.
Most people intend the latter when they mean the former (at least from usage).
I think you've just completely upended the meaning of meritocracy to suite your argument.
Next you'll be arguing lootboxes make games more fair.
>Think of the movie Gattaca
Was literally a movie about unfair privilege. people in it were granted privileges and opportunities based on their genes whether they had accomplished something or not.