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Re:The Case Against Google by Kiro on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @10:00AM (#16420780)
> For search engines, it's not Bing versus Google, there are DuckDuckGo, YaCy and so on.

DDG is just a wrapper for Bing.

Re:The Case Against Google by notheguyouthink on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @10:06AM (#16420831)
Wait, really?

Fwiw, I switched to DDG a ~year ago (can't remember honestly lol), and I've been quite happy. With that said, not a week goes by where I don't use the !g bang to run my search on Google. DDG just has terrible results. It's good enough a lot, maybe even most of the time, but frequently it's too terrible.

I'm still happy I switched, the "good enough" results are heavily reinforced by privacy, and not giving Google everything. The fact remains though, DDG misses the mark for me frequently.

Re:The Case Against Google by chillingeffect on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @12:45PM (#16422221)
No, GP post is inaccurate. As sources below state, DDG

"generates those results from over 400 individual sources, including key crowdsourced sites such as Wikipedia, and other search engines like Bing, Yahoo!, Yandex, and Yummly.[6][7]" as well as DuckDuckBot.

Also, more importantly, Bing, like google and facebook is building personal dossiers on everyone, while DDG is not.

Re:The Case Against Google by granitDev on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @10:11AM (#16420882)
This is so wrong it's laughable. Please provide proof if this ridiculousness.
Re:The Case Against Google by lugg on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @10:28AM (#16421021)
Re:The Case Against Google by bduerst on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @12:21PM (#16422001)
From what I understand, it's mostly Bing + Yandex (for Russian pages) these days - the additional sources are websites that submit their own custom indexing of their pages.
Re:The Case Against Google by lugg on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @05:18PM (#16424771)
I suspect the nature of things just leads to that even if they have multiple big upstreams.

If bing offers up the best results most of the time DDG will, as a result, offer up bing results most of the time. "Best results" easily determinable even with DDG privacy constraints.

They're definitely doing some cool stuff at DDG and its certainly a hell of a lot more than "a wrapper around bing." I just don't think expanding their own index infrastructure is something feasible for them right now.

Re:The Case Against Google by bduerst on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @06:46PM (#16425436)
Sure, but I don't think it's fair to compare DDG to other search engines that crawl and index the entire web themselves. It's a different user experience for sure but the indexing is (for the most part) the same as Bing.
Re:The Case Against Google by nxc18 on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @10:22AM (#16420962)
https://web.archive.org/web/20150124074006/https://duck.co/h...

“Just a wrapper” is misleading, but DDG returns bing results at least some of the time.