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Re:Visa confirms Coinbase wasn’t at fault for overcharging u... by zaroth on Sunday February 18, 2018 @12:46PM (#16407157)
A better way to state it, IMO;

Stupidity should be assumed. Malice demands evidence.

But it comes down to intent. Impute intent only when indicated. Which when you think about it is only fair. It’s self-evident Visa fucked up, but a claim it was malicious must be substantiated or it’s just trolling.

Re:Visa confirms Coinbase wasn’t at fault for overcharging u... by tinokid on Sunday February 18, 2018 @03:18PM (#16408217)
Really? It's "self-evident" Visa fucked up? Yeah...I'll be waiting for the statement to that effect on visa.com

And then I saw this comment: "Thats weird. I have a mastercard and was charged twice. So how is it Visas fault."

Re:Visa confirms Coinbase wasn’t at fault for overcharging u... by bitL on Monday February 19, 2018 @12:57PM (#16414399)
“The aim of science is to seek the simplest explanation of complex facts. We are apt to fall into the error of thinking that the facts are simple because simplicity is the goal of our quest. The guiding motto in the life of every natural philosopher should be “Seek simplicity and distrust it.”

– Alfred North Whitehead

Re:Visa confirms Coinbase wasn’t at fault for overcharging u... by bitL on Sunday February 18, 2018 @01:05PM (#16407238)
I am not saying somebody at VISA did it intentionally, I just don't understand why am I supposed to assume they didn't given whatever popular logical razor that can't be a tautology on its own.
Re:Visa confirms Coinbase wasn’t at fault for overcharging u... by zaroth on Sunday February 18, 2018 @01:30PM (#16407372)
Because supposing malicious intent without any evidence to support the conclusion is uncharitable at best, and libelous at worst.

It’s a philosophy which many people find beneficial, to try to shape your thinking in a way that you set a higher bar before believing something negative was done intentionally rather than unintentionally.

The inverse (converse?) is also be true — when lacking conclusive evidence either way, assuming positive things are done intentionally and not unintentionally.

Another way to think about it is; what’s the cost of being wrong? It’s as simple as giving the benefit of the doubt.

Re:Visa confirms Coinbase wasn’t at fault for overcharging u... by bitL on Sunday February 18, 2018 @02:21PM (#16407697)
> uncharitable at best

I am fine with that. I am not going to assume "good intentions" by default, but case by case as I see fit. Even if my biases get in the way (like with any untrained human). If there is a non-zero probability of somebody intentionally causing something, i.e. it cannot be counter-factually refuted, then it has to be handled as one possible explanation, however unlikely it is.

Haven't you ever seen how people cook the books for businesses to appear flawless? Ohh, that small mistake? Just an error, don't look too much into that! Let's have a drink and here is your ticket to a strip club to entertain you! Have fun!

Re:Visa confirms Coinbase wasn’t at fault for overcharging u... by ZephyrP on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:32AM (#16412017)
> i.e it cannot be counter-factually refuted, then it has to be handled as one possible explanation, however unlikely it is.

ergo, we must accuse all others of whichever crimes are not literally logical impossibilities.

Re:Visa confirms Coinbase wasn’t at fault for overcharging u... by bitL on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:46PM (#16416007)
Nope, just keep it in your list of probable reasons. Like when you do particle filters, you have your most probable states but nevertheless keep probabilities that you are wrong and you are in fact in any of the other possible states.