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Re:Fired Google Engineer Loses Diversity Memo Challenge by stcredzero on Saturday February 17, 2018 @06:02PM (#16403293)
Of course it is not and I take umbrage at the offensive undertone of your comment ("parroting"? Really?). Psychology is not climate science, it's currently going through a widely publicised reproducibility crisis and in any case, the reliance on p-values has been criticised widely by experts in fields as varied as economics, medicine and of course the humanities. The big-5 model itself has been the subject of much criticism, from inside the field (and the wikipedia article you reference has a big section devoted to that criticism).

So you're admitting that James Damore is referencing legitimate scientific sources. It's just that you're claiming the whole field isn't valid. Then you go on to make unsubstantiated claims that his interpretations are wrong, but you produce no specifics. That sounds a lot like what climate science deniers do.

Re:Fired Google Engineer Loses Diversity Memo Challenge by tptacek on Saturday February 17, 2018 @06:11PM (#16403328)
I don't think that is a very fair summary of that comment, which was considerably more detailed than the one that preceded it.
Re:Fired Google Engineer Loses Diversity Memo Challenge by stcredzero on Monday February 19, 2018 @11:14PM (#16417807)
I re-read the comment several times. What I get out of it, is that he notes that Big-5 has been criticized. That's what's supposed to happen in science. Bringing up that something is criticized in science is a classic climate denier tactic! (Also, given the controversial subject matter, one would expect that.) He also mentions his credentials. Then he engages in name calling. ("cargo-cult.") I'm sorry, but exactly where in that comment does he actually substantiate anything? After several readings, it still looks like he doesn't.
Re:Fired Google Engineer Loses Diversity Memo Challenge by YeGoblynQueenne on Saturday February 17, 2018 @06:15PM (#16403353)
He's citing "legitimate scientific sources" but he doesn't understand them, so his citations are meaningless.

Where am I claiming that "the whole field isn't valid"? I said there's a reproducibility crisis and that the reliance on p-values has been criticised in various fields.

I made no claim that his interpretations are "wrong". I said that his interpretations are most likely wrong because he's not a psychologist and he doesn't understand the field. That's what you expect from non-experts who pretend to know what they're talking about, to be talking nonsense.

>> That sounds a lot like what climate science deniers do.

You keep insulting me.

Re:Fired Google Engineer Loses Diversity Memo Challenge by _Tev on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @09:15AM (#16420407)
It's funny how you are trying to defame Damore and then take offense at the perceived insult. And all the appeals to authority can be used against you - you are not an expert in those fields, so you cannot claim Damore is wrong.

At least provide some citations or examples before you use such childish phrases as "sai-ent-tifickal". You sound really terrible when arguing like that.

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Re:Fired Google Engineer Loses Diversity Memo Challenge by YeGoblynQueenne on Sunday February 18, 2018 @08:06AM (#16405893)
stcredzero, I enjoy vigorous debate (I'm an academic) and in the past I've benefited tremendously from engaging opposing viewpoints. That's nothing like what I got from our conversation, which is instead becoming more and more embarassing for both of us, the more it grows. My apologies but it is evident to me there can be no productive debate between us and therefore I will now stop replying to you.
Re:Fired Google Engineer Loses Diversity Memo Challenge by stcredzero on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:37PM (#16415946)
which is instead becoming more and more embarassing for both of us, the more it grows

Your argument just came down to: "I don't lend any credence to psychology/sociology, therefore I'm right to label it all pseudoscience." Also, since you're not supplying particulars, your mention of your background just amounts to argument by authority. Unless one grants that, I don't see that you really have a supported position. The rest is all heated assertion on your part. I will happily leave it to 3rd party readers to decide who is being intellectually honest here.

There seem to be a plague of pseudo-academics under the "Postmodernist" flag, which claim their own "alternative facts" and "alternative logic." In such an environment, skepticism and asking for substantiation of positions is quite understandable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfYIpgpMUYU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmyO3hbOz8&

If, on the other hand, you'd like to actually substantiate something, then it would seem this would be beneficial and educational. (One thing we've seen from Postmodernist "fake academics" is that they are actually embarrassed when people are given a link to their work.)