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Re:Once-tolerant Indonesia moves to outlaw gay – and extrama... by bufferoverflow on Saturday February 17, 2018 @05:42AM (#16400101)
87% muslim country. Not a surprising move at all.
Re:Once-tolerant Indonesia moves to outlaw gay – and extrama... by imartin2k on Saturday February 17, 2018 @06:09AM (#16400171)
It’s actually a bit more complicated. The Islam traditionally practiced in Indonesia has been well known for being comparatively tolerant and for promoting pluralism. So the issue is not the fact of being predominantly a Muslim country in itself, but growing influence coming from conservative forces in the Middle East (which, indeed, is not all that surprising).

The largest Islamic organization in the country and traditionally the biggest proponent of a moderate Islam, Nahdlatul Ulama, is clearly naming the problem: Wahhabism. "It is false and counterproductive to claim that the actions of al-Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram and other such groups have nothing to do with Islam, or merely represent a perversion of Islamic teachings. They are, in fact, outgrowths of Wahhabism and other fundamentalist streams of Sunni Islam," Yaqut said." http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/05/25/humanitarian-i...

Interesting read about the same topic here http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/14/indonesias-moderate-isla...

It's definitely sad to see the moderate forces lose against the foreign-funded supporters of extremist views in what otherwise is a beautiful country.

Re:Once-tolerant Indonesia moves to outlaw gay – and extrama... by bocahrokok on Monday February 19, 2018 @02:57AM (#16411429)
As indonesian, i couldnt be agree more with this.its complicated. Especially if everythings what you did needs to be related with religion(goverment, business, relation) You cant hide it. Many people worried with the future in here
Re:Once-tolerant Indonesia moves to outlaw gay – and extrama... by SamReidHughes on Saturday February 17, 2018 @12:19PM (#16401608)
Not surprising, but the USA also had laws like this being enforced in the 90's.
Re:Once-tolerant Indonesia moves to outlaw gay – and extrama... by clicea on Saturday February 17, 2018 @01:34PM (#16401960)
I'm skeptical of your claim, may be on the books but enforced?

Even taking you at face value this is a clear case of whataboutism. Finally errors of almost 30 years ago give these assholes a pass how?

Re:Once-tolerant Indonesia moves to outlaw gay – and extrama... by SamReidHughes on Saturday February 17, 2018 @02:19PM (#16402212)
See Lawrence v. Texas.
Re:Once-tolerant Indonesia moves to outlaw gay – and extrama... by clicea on Saturday February 17, 2018 @04:06PM (#16402694)
Point taken, but it was more of a relic, rarely enforced. My other comments stand, this is irrelevant to this discussion.
Re:Once-tolerant Indonesia moves to outlaw gay – and extrama... by SamReidHughes on Saturday February 17, 2018 @05:47PM (#16403216)
Yes it is relevant, the point being that it's not a uniquely Islamic phenomenon.
Re:Once-tolerant Indonesia moves to outlaw gay – and extrama... by clicea on Sunday February 18, 2018 @12:28PM (#16407070)
Way to go with your whataboutism, nobody claimed it was solely Islamic. It's disingenuous to equate current state Islam acceptance of homosexuality with current acceptance in Christianity. You just want to inject "I'm not a racist" signal.
Re:Once-tolerant Indonesia moves to outlaw gay – and extrama... by SamReidHughes on Sunday February 18, 2018 @02:07PM (#16407590)
It's called injecting some perspective.