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Re:U.S. Charges 13 Russians, 3 Companies for Interfering wit... by 52-6F-62 on Friday February 16, 2018 @03:09PM (#16395614)
The hack was recently publicly confirmed by a Dutch intelligence agency where they confirmed the DNC was indeed hacked, and that they were witness with recorded video and possibly logs of Cozy Bear committing the very hack that was proposed to be a leak.

https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/2213767-dutch-intelligence-...

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Re:U.S. Charges 13 Russians, 3 Companies for Interfering wit... by 13years on Friday February 16, 2018 @03:50PM (#16396070)
It is 'claimed' to be confirmed by anonymous source. Still many statements raise questions...

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-26/release-t...

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/12/dutch-official-admits-ly...

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Re:U.S. Charges 13 Russians, 3 Companies for Interfering wit... by 52-6F-62 on Friday February 16, 2018 @04:33PM (#16396582)
Both of the opinion columns you posted seem to allege nefarious intent because classified information wasn't broadcast to the public during an attack and subsequent investigation. I'm not sure what your assertion is.
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Re:U.S. Charges 13 Russians, 3 Companies for Interfering wit... by 13years on Friday February 16, 2018 @05:41PM (#16397194)
>because classified information wasn't broadcast to the public

Seems to be quite a disingenuous summary of content

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Re:U.S. Charges 13 Russians, 3 Companies for Interfering wit... by smsm42 on Friday February 16, 2018 @04:01PM (#16396196)
Wait, so if what the article says is true, for several months both FBI and DNC knew what they think is Russian intelligence are reading all their (DNC) mails, and then when Russians, after many months of having unfettered access with the full knowledge of FBI and DNC, finally publish their loot, they're all act surprised "ah, we were hacked!"? That sounds like astounding level of negligence from both FBI and DNC - effectively, DNC could be just CCing Kremlin on all their correspondence with the same result. And FBI knowing about a hack for months and doing nothing to stop it?
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Re:U.S. Charges 13 Russians, 3 Companies for Interfering wit... by 52-6F-62 on Friday February 16, 2018 @04:32PM (#16396566)
Who said they did nothing to stop it? If you would like there are plenty of reports about tactics used. Primarily, any initial entry into one government system they would use to snowball access to others, largely by spear-phishing attacks using government emails to gain higher level and wider access through legitimate accounts. By that time, it's a cat and mouse game.

I'm not sure about your anecdote regarding alleged surprise. The only surprise I really caught were the public reactions to the news.

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Re:U.S. Charges 13 Russians, 3 Companies for Interfering wit... by smsm42 on Friday February 16, 2018 @05:08PM (#16396912)
> Who said they did nothing to stop it?

OK, I admit, I took the optimistic route. The pessimistic one would be they knew for months, they tried for months to stop it, and they failed, and they didn't tell anyone about it. That sounds even worse to me.

> Primarily, any initial entry into one government system

DNC is not government. At least not yet :)

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Re:U.S. Charges 13 Russians, 3 Companies for Interfering wit... by 52-6F-62 on Friday February 16, 2018 @06:35PM (#16397602)
Freudian slip or what.

I trust you understood what I meant, regardless.

I’m willing to believe it’s possible they failed. I recall talks by a former NSA director about the dire need for improved cybersecurity programs and it wasn’t well received at the time— in light of all the patriot act business

Maybe it’s a wake up call?

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