Tesla’s China Dream Threatened by Standoff Over Shanghai Factory

Re:Tesla’s China Dream Threatened by Standoff Over Shanghai ... by cma on Thursday February 15, 2018 @05:19PM (#16388289)

Sounds like they are following after American heros:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Slater

    Samuel Slater (June 9, 1768 – April 21, 1835) was an 
    early English-American industrialist known as the 
    "Father of the American Industrial Revolution" (a phrase
    coined by Andrew Jackson) and the "Father of the
    American Factory System."

    In the UK, he was called "Slater the Traitor" because he
    brought British textile technology to America, modifying 
    it for United States use. He memorized the designs of
    textile factory machinery as an apprentice to a pioneer
    in the British industry before migrating to the United
    States at the age of 21.

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Re:Tesla’s China Dream Threatened by Standoff Over Shanghai ... by daemonk on Thursday February 15, 2018 @08:55PM (#16389330)

Sure. It was shitty when US did it and it is also shitty now when China does it.

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Re:Tesla’s China Dream Threatened by Standoff Over Shanghai ... by mc32 on Friday February 16, 2018 @12:22AM (#16390068)

Wasn't some of this prompted by Britain's effective technology embargo on America? I think there was a time we couldn't even legally import good woodworking tools for fear these things would allow the Americans to outgrow Britain.

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Re:Tesla’s China Dream Threatened by Standoff Over Shanghai ... by cma on Friday February 16, 2018 @11:39PM (#16399050)

Didn't the US have an embargo against China? And even when Nixon lifted the embargo, it was only for non-strategic items (which encompassed more than just militarily strategic; factory technology etc. if I understand right).

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Re:Tesla’s China Dream Threatened by Standoff Over Shanghai ... by ksk on Friday February 16, 2018 @12:41PM (#16394098)

Also, the founding fathers were no strangers to protectionism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_industry_argument

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Re:Tesla’s China Dream Threatened by Standoff Over Shanghai ... by anthonyleecook on Thursday February 15, 2018 @06:38PM (#16388766)

You are talking about something eons ago, before we had wto, which arbitrage against intellectual property theft.

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Re:Tesla’s China Dream Threatened by Standoff Over Shanghai ... by oh_sigh on Thursday February 15, 2018 @06:09PM (#16388597)

There's a slight difference between someone memorizing how things work, versus whole sale theft of corporate documents, data, complex technical design, etc.

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Re:Tesla’s China Dream Threatened by Standoff Over Shanghai ... by nate_meurer on Thursday February 15, 2018 @06:32PM (#16388721)

This makes absolutely no sense. If I implement a machine whose design is someones else's protected IP, the law cares not a bit whether I recorded the design details or merely memorized them. And no one else will care either.

You'll note that this was exactly the case with Samuel Slater; the Brits considered him a thief regardless.

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Re:Tesla’s China Dream Threatened by Standoff Over Shanghai ... by e_b on Thursday February 15, 2018 @06:25PM (#16388684)

No.

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Re:Tesla’s China Dream Threatened by Standoff Over Shanghai ... by oh_sigh on Thursday February 15, 2018 @09:57PM (#16389534)

Yes.

There, it's even now.

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Re:Tesla’s China Dream Threatened by Standoff Over Shanghai ... by BRAlNlAC on Thursday February 15, 2018 @06:34PM (#16388748)

That's like saying there is no difference between a verbal description and a video of something.

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Re:Tesla’s China Dream Threatened by Standoff Over Shanghai ... by e_b on Thursday February 15, 2018 @07:09PM (#16388917)

No, it's not.

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Re:Tesla’s China Dream Threatened by Standoff Over Shanghai ... by oh_sigh on Friday February 16, 2018 @07:14PM (#16397883)

Yes, it is.

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