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Re:Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking by emodendroket on Thursday February 15, 2018 @04:43PM (#16387965)
That, in itself, can be kind of annoying (interrupt all your downloads or whatever you are doing), and it doesn't get at the other issues -- having to run updates for both, having two incompatible filesystems where it's annoying to fetch a document from one and use it on the other, doubling the amount of setup and configuration you have to do, and so on. Every time I've set up a dual-boot system I've ended up just never using one of the options.
Re:Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking by thomastjeffery on Thursday February 15, 2018 @05:17PM (#16388271)
> That, in itself, can be kind of annoying

Of course, but is it more annoying than using Windows all the time? OP leads me to belive a growing number of windows users might think otherwise. It's also worth noting that rebooting is an order of magnitude faster than it was 10 years ago.

> having to run updates for both

Updates are a pain in Windows, but they are not in any serious GNU/Linux distro I have ever used. This is one of the main reasons that users are frustrated with Windows in the first place.

> having two incompatible filesystems where it's annoying to fetch a document from one and use it on the other

This is a real problem when you are using Windows, but not when you are using Linux. The idea here is to only use Windows when you need it anyway. It's an inconvenience, sure, but is it more of an inconvenience than using Windows all the time? That's up to the user. Personally, the answer is no.

> doubling the amount of setup and configuration you have to do

Not so much, if you seriously use GNU/Linux for everything you don't need Windows for. Besides, configuration isn't a big issue unless you are like me, and want everything exactly your way; although, GNU/Linux is the only way I can get that.

> Every time I've set up a dual-boot system I've ended up just never using one of the options.

That's you, and that's fine. The best setup for you is almost definitely not the best setup for most other people. That is the entire reason to use and promote free software: liberty.

Windows has made dual-booting difficult on purpose, because proprietary software begets proprietary software and control. Thankfully, there has been plenty of work in the other direction for those of us who want to control our computers, as opposed to the inverse.

Re:Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking by emodendroket on Thursday February 15, 2018 @06:27PM (#16388696)
> Of course, but is it more annoying than using Windows all the time?

In a word: yes.

I have at different points used Windows, Linux, and OS X as primary desktop operating systems, so I am not operating from a sense of total ignorance of what other systems are like.

My experience with Linux was that I needed to do far more configuration because lots of hardware wouldn't work right out of the box and needed a lot of tweaking and digging through Linux forums for someone with the same problem. I'm really not interested in doing that kind of thing on my personal computer anymore.

Re:Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking by thomastjeffery on Friday February 16, 2018 @12:25AM (#16390083)
When is the last time you used a major Linux distro?

From my experience, installing and using Linux has been the most straightforward, especially compared to windows.

And that's the point: we all have different experiences, so I think it's a bad idea to tell someone they are going to have your bad experiences of they try something new, because better software ends up getting a bad rap.

Re:Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking by emodendroket on Friday February 16, 2018 @06:19AM (#16391565)
You don't seem to have any qualms about sharing negative Windows experiences. Is the claim here that I should never share my opinion of software I have used?
Re:Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking by thomastjeffery on Saturday February 17, 2018 @12:53AM (#16399285)
Negative experiences with windows are shared, because windows is proprietary, and therefore consistent. This entire thread is about one of them.

I haven't had any negative experience with CUPS, and if I had, that wouldn't define my experience with GNU/Linux.

I don't have an issue with you sharing experiences. I do get frustrated when those experiences are used to define GNU/Linux to those who haven't experienced it at all.

There are too many people who hear that GNU/Linux is not for them, when it is really a fantastic alternative to windows. There's an attitude that free software will always fail people (which is not true), and I find that attitude not simply unfortunate, but malicious.

The way that things improve is for manufacturers to see demand; and that won't happen if people don't see free software as the viable alternative that it is.

Re:Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking by juliangoldsmith on Thursday February 15, 2018 @06:14PM (#16388624)
I agree with most of what the sibling post said, but the incompatible filesystems isn't much of an issue anymore.

In my experience, NTFS on Linux works very well. Certainly well enough for any average user.

Re:Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking by emodendroket on Thursday February 15, 2018 @06:25PM (#16388682)
Oh, the last time I tried it it came with a bunch of disclaimers to never mount an NTFS filesystem as read/write on a hard drive whose contents you weren't OK with losing, but it's good to hear things have gotten better.
Re:Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking by thomastjeffery on Friday February 16, 2018 @12:28AM (#16390097)
Everything that deals with filesystems or partitions has that kind of disclaimer.

There fact is that you should always backup data you care about.

It's the same as saying they aren't responsible for your computer suddenly catching fire. Is that likely to happen? No.

Re:Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking by emodendroket on Friday February 16, 2018 @06:18AM (#16391560)
Not that kind of disclaimer but a serious one that corruption was very likely