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Re:Fritz Haber: A Monster Who Fed the World by Hattes on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @06:10AM (#16366258)
You may very well declare a war that you don't expect to win if you have even worse expectations for a future war. This was pretty much the situation of Germany in WW1, from my understanding.
Re:Fritz Haber: A Monster Who Fed the World by Tech-Noir on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @09:36AM (#16367375)
Or if you believe the superior power will not respond militarily, as in the Falklands in 1982.

Unfortunately for the junta, they weren't the only unpopular right-wing government who saw warfare and jingoism as a handy distraction from internal economic and social problems.

Re:Fritz Haber: A Monster Who Fed the World by nsnick on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @11:38AM (#16368436)
Britain was hardly a super power in 1982. It took every refueling plane Britain had to send one bomber to the Falklands. Refueling planes had to fuel refueling planes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Black_Buck

Re:Fritz Haber: A Monster Who Fed the World by arethuza on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @11:35AM (#16368401)
To be fair to Thatcher, I don't think her goal in fighting was to reap electoral success based on "warfare and jingoism" but I agree that it certainly was the result.
Re:Fritz Haber: A Monster Who Fed the World by nickik on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @09:31AM (#16367343)
That was maybe what a couple of people thought. However it is totally wrong, Germany was not in that situation.

Those are the kinds of things you say that already imply 100s of other theories and assumption and then you are like 'We have no choice'.

Germany was in a fantastic geopolitical situation after Bismark but then just fucked it all up because they had all these wrong (and sometimes crazy) assumptions.

Re:Fritz Haber: A Monster Who Fed the World by arethuza on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @07:15AM (#16366530)
And the Soviets in '83 - who were terrified that the US and its allies were going to attack so they considered a first strike even though they knew this would be disastrous.