Re:Hacker News comments are assigned reading for UC Berkeley...
by briandear on Monday February 12, 2018 @05:10AM
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What's ironic about your statement is that there are many in the US that clamor for "free" university education for "everyone" -- citing how it's done in Europe. However, like everything, there are tradeoffs and unintended consequences that go beyond the simplistic thoughts of the politically and economically naïve. The University of California system, in my amateur opinion is extremely good. In fact, the state university systems in most US states are all of pretty good quality. I spent a bit of time living near the University of Avignon (France) and, compared to a typical American community college, I was very suprised at how deficient the French university was. In France, university is "free" but as you said, you get what you pay for. Of course, there are exceptional European universities and there are terrible American universities, but overall, American university systems seem to be much better than the equivalent in "free" university countries.
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Re:Hacker News comments are assigned reading for UC Berkeley...
by wolfgke on Monday February 12, 2018 @06:44AM
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> Of course, there are exceptional European universities and there are terrible American universities, but overall, American university systems seem to be much better than the equivalent in "free" university countries.
I personally think that the typical German university is better than the typical US one, but it is a very different system: In Germany you are very much on your own when you are studying. This teaches you a lot about self-discipline, which employers love. On the other hand, if you are a person who needs a lot of handholding, German universities are probably not for you. In my opinion being able to study mostly for free is more than worth the lack of handholding, but as I said: This system is not for everybody.
Re:Hacker News comments are assigned reading for UC Berkeley...
by adamnemecek on Monday February 12, 2018 @03:16PM
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I agree 100%. The US university system treats the students as kindergarten.
Re:Hacker News comments are assigned reading for UC Berkeley...
by yodsanklai on Monday February 12, 2018 @05:21AM
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> I spent a bit of time living near the University of Avignon (France) and, compared to a typical American community college, I was very suprised at how deficient the French university was.
There are two co-existing systems in France. Universities and "Grandes Ecoles". The latter are more selective and usually have more fundings.