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Re:Giftedness and Genius: Crucial Differences (1996) [pdf] by beautifulfreak on Sunday February 11, 2018 @02:08AM (#16351591)
I know a lot of people with IQs that are 4 standard deviations above the mean, and there's a lot of variety there. They're on a "different level" in a lot of different ways. It's not always obvious they're brilliant, and besides, some of them feel safer keeping it hidden. Their otherness often shows up in quiet ways that usually go unnoticed. Math prodigies (and programming gurus) are easy to spot, but other forms can be quite subtle. So your son may surprise you yet. (A father's opinion is crucial, so I hope your assessment of him doesn't come across as disappointment. You don't want him to be telling himself he's not really a genius, because he might start believing it. Tell him to let his freak flag fly!)
Re:Giftedness and Genius: Crucial Differences (1996) [pdf] by danieltillett on Sunday February 11, 2018 @05:07AM (#16352043)
I wish I knew a lot of people 4 SD above the mean - as far as I know I don't know any. I do know a lot of people who think they are 4 SD above the mean.
Re:Giftedness and Genius: Crucial Differences (1996) [pdf] by pfarnsworth on Sunday February 11, 2018 @03:55AM (#16351843)
I make sure to always highlight that working hard is better than being smart, and taking risks and failing is a great opportunity to learn. I tell him every day that I love him no matter what he does and I support him no matter what he decides to do. I really just want him to grow up to be a well adjusted kid that makes good life choices. I don’t what career path he chooses, etc.
Re:Giftedness and Genius: Crucial Differences (1996) [pdf] by TheOtherHobbes on Sunday February 11, 2018 @10:39AM (#16353097)
IQ doesn't necessarily correlate with productive intelligence.

The British educational system used to have a concept called "mental agility", and that seems closest to what IQ really measures - a mechanical, essentially directionless, ability to manipulate existing abstractions.

That's not the same as the creative ability to generate useful new abstractions by finding core invariants and then extending them in unexpected ways. We don't have tests for that because we barely understand it as a skill.

Genius seems to combine high IQ with that kind of high creativity. Individuals with either are gifted, but you need both for those next-level breakthroughs.