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Re:How to Know When a Child’s Flu Turns Serious by DoreenMichele on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:04AM (#16338015)
I am so glad I was able to be home with my kids. My oldest was also really hard to place with a babysitter, so I rarely got a break. I spent enormous amounts of time with him. This meant that I knew what he ate or drank and what was normal for him. I knew when it was serious.

Dehydration kills a great deal faster than starvation. Sunken eyes is a sign of serious dehydration in a child. The child either needs to be fed fluids orally by the spoonful until this improves, which can take two hours of devoted care, or they need an IV. I once treated serious dehydration at home with spoons of fluids to prevent my 4 year old from being subjected to an IV. This is a technique taught in developing countries where IV fluids may not be available.

If a child is vomiting but keeps drinking, they are much less likely to dehydrate, even if it does not stay down. When my youngest son had Winter Vomiting, a deadly flu from many years ago, I told him to drink or I would take him to the ER for an IV. He had had an IV once when he had been sick while relatives watched him.* He didn't want another. So he would drink a whole lot of water and eat a few crackers, go projectile vomit it back up and go back to bed.

* That is not a criticism of my relatives. It is just another example of how much of a difference it makes for a child to have a devoted full time caretaker who knows them well. Children are not good at explaining that they have a serious issue. It is vastly better if there is an adult who is in a position to just recognize that their behavior is seriously off and something is just not right. People who don't take full-time care of a child are just less able to recognize that the problem is serious, even when they are otherwise very competent and devoted caregivers.

Re:How to Know When a Child’s Flu Turns Serious by 3131s on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:17AM (#16338065)
I'm not a doctor, but AFAIK it's best to just get an IV straightaway if you're really dehydrated and continually vomiting. The pain from an IV is not bad at all and it seems beneficial for children and everyone else to be able to tolerate a minimal amount of harmless pain.
Re:How to Know When a Child’s Flu Turns Serious by DoreenMichele on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:23AM (#16338083)
I didn't want my 4 year old unnecessarily traumatized. He was frequently sick and had to see doctors regularly. He had enough baggage over that, and was later diagnosed with a genetic disorder.

I knew what I was doing. If a parent doesn't know, sure, get the IV. But if a parent does know and wishes to spare their child some pain, I see no reason that should not be supported. The comfort of my children mattered to me. I cannot imagine that it wouldn't matter to most other parents.

Re:How to Know When a Child’s Flu Turns Serious by PostOnce on Friday February 09, 2018 @01:05AM (#16338245)
I think 3131s's theory is that the amount of pain from a needle is much less than say scraping your knee, hardly traumatic, and is guaranteed to work better, faster, and more reliably than a spoon. Why risk the spoon not working (and therefore further dehydrating the child and increasing risk of something really bad happening) when all we are talking about is an IV, not something actually traumatic like an amputation.
Re:How to Know When a Child’s Flu Turns Serious by chopin on Friday February 09, 2018 @05:09AM (#16339135)
Every IV carries the risk of thrombosis. So I would avoid it, if I can.
Re:How to Know When a Child’s Flu Turns Serious by upvotinglurker on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:51PM (#16342282)
If the IV reduces or eliminates the discomfort of dehydration faster (which it seems it would do faster than hours of spoon-feeding?), that might also actually reduce the overall trauma level.
Re:How to Know When a Child’s Flu Turns Serious by DoreenMichele on Friday February 09, 2018 @01:13AM (#16338277)
This varies a lot. Some people seriously don't deal well with needles. Your cavalier attitude towards them is not universally shared.
Re:How to Know When a Child’s Flu Turns Serious by tmp-20150107 on Monday February 12, 2018 @12:14PM (#16360066)
This is odd to me - how would a four year old develop a fear of needles? At worst they're an instantaneous sharp pain that lasts milliseconds, most of the time they aren't even felt...
Re:How to Know When a Child’s Flu Turns Serious by stmfreak on Friday February 09, 2018 @08:48PM (#16345369)
I believe the moral of the story is that with education and encouragement, kids should not get dehydrated enough to ever require an IV.