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Re:Tinc VPN: Secure Private Network Between Hosts by ryanlol on Wednesday February 07, 2018 @12:01PM (#16325918)
>are vps providers somehow more trustworthy than ISPs?

Random small providers from lowendtalk or whatever may not be, but yeah vast majority of hosting providers will be far more trustworthy than any residential ISP.

However, life tends to be much easier if you avoid VPS providers and just get a cheap dedicated server from somebody like OVH instead.

Re:Tinc VPN: Secure Private Network Between Hosts by jrnichols on Wednesday February 07, 2018 @10:22PM (#16329926)
"just get a cheap dedicated server "

what does one consider to be "cheap" for a dedicated server these days?

Re:Tinc VPN: Secure Private Network Between Hosts by bartvk on Thursday February 08, 2018 @01:19AM (#16330567)
Scaleway virtual private servers go for 3 euros monthly (US$ 3.68).
Re:Tinc VPN: Secure Private Network Between Hosts by klez on Thursday February 08, 2018 @02:56AM (#16330842)
They asked for dedicated servers explicitly to avoid VPSs.
Re:Tinc VPN: Secure Private Network Between Hosts by antman on Thursday February 08, 2018 @04:31AM (#16331116)
Kimsufi 7eur
Re:Tinc VPN: Secure Private Network Between Hosts by petre on Thursday February 08, 2018 @01:05AM (#16330530)
10 euros.
Re:Tinc VPN: Secure Private Network Between Hosts by metalliqaz on Wednesday February 07, 2018 @12:03PM (#16325940)
> but yeah vast majority of hosting providers will be far more trustworthy than any residential ISP.

[citation needed]

Re:Tinc VPN: Secure Private Network Between Hosts by ryanlol on Wednesday February 07, 2018 @12:06PM (#16325971)
1) Incentives, residential ISPs obviously have a far bigger incentive to try and monetize your traffic.

2) No lock-in for hosting products, way more competitive hosting market, hosting companies have incentive to provide better service than residential ISPs.

3) Residential ISPs tend to have a far bigger attack surface and less trained staff. I hacked many of the worlds biggest ISPs and hosting companies, the ISPs were always running Solaris from a decade ago.

Re:Tinc VPN: Secure Private Network Between Hosts by mirimir on Wednesday February 07, 2018 @07:18PM (#16329147)
One reason is that you and your ISP are almost certainly under the same jurisdiction. So your ISP is more likely subject to coercion by your government, compared with VPS providers in other jurisdictions. Further, you can choose VPS providers in jurisdictions where such coercion will not likely be successful.