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Re:Stocks are rolling over, Dow falls 1,500 points by freejulian on Monday February 05, 2018 @04:26PM (#16312344)
That’s a bad idea. Yields can’t exactly go much lower.
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Re:Stocks are rolling over, Dow falls 1,500 points by joezydeco on Monday February 05, 2018 @04:31PM (#16312389)
"The yield on 10-year U.S. Treasury debt hit a four-year high of 2.885 percent, having jumped almost 7 basis points on Friday."

https://www.nasdaq.com/article/wall-st-opens-lower-on-rising...

Tax cut stimulus + already stimulated economy = inflation.

Inflation concerns = higher bond yields.

Higher bond yields = people dumping stocks for bonds.

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Re:Stocks are rolling over, Dow falls 1,500 points by hooo on Monday February 05, 2018 @04:47PM (#16312531)
People dumping stocks for bonds would increase the price of bonds, pushing yields lower.
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Re:Stocks are rolling over, Dow falls 1,500 points by freejulian on Monday February 05, 2018 @04:36PM (#16312433)
Inflation is higher than 2.885%. Anyone buying bonds now is A) causing yields to drop B) still losing money to inflation.
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Re:Stocks are rolling over, Dow falls 1,500 points by dragonwriter on Monday February 05, 2018 @04:47PM (#16312529)
> Inflation is higher than 2.885%

Official BLS has had it at a 2.0% annual rate for the first half of 2017 and a 1.7% for the second; some citation would be welcome on the claim that it's jumped to something above a 2.885% annual rate since...

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Re:Stocks are rolling over, Dow falls 1,500 points by freejulian on Monday February 05, 2018 @04:49PM (#16312551)
Sorry, inflation in the price of things people actually want to buy. The government has every incentive to lie about real inflation.
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Re:Stocks are rolling over, Dow falls 1,500 points by dragonwriter on Monday February 05, 2018 @04:52PM (#16312568)
> Sorry, inflation in the price of things people actually want to buy

And still, actual evidence that the rate of inflation “in the price of things people want to buy” is 2.885% or higher is missing.

Trying to blur the topic is not a substitute for supporting your fact claims.

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Re:Stocks are rolling over, Dow falls 1,500 points by freejulian on Monday February 05, 2018 @05:11PM (#16312709)
Missing? Basic shelter needs increase in price roughly 8% per year.
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Re:Stocks are rolling over, Dow falls 1,500 points by dragonwriter on Monday February 05, 2018 @05:33PM (#16312861)
> Basic shelter needs increase in price roughly 8% per year.

Again, source?

Housing (urban, at least) has less than 1% quarterly inflation recently:

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUSR0000SAH?output_view=pct_...

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Re:Stocks are rolling over, Dow falls 1,500 points by efuquen on Monday February 05, 2018 @04:46PM (#16312520)
No, it isn't. Inflation hasn't event hit 2% (Fed goal) yet.

https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-inflation-rate-statis...

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Re:Stocks are rolling over, Dow falls 1,500 points by radicaldreamer on Monday February 05, 2018 @04:28PM (#16312362)
It's better to hold onto your money than to lose it.
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Re:Stocks are rolling over, Dow falls 1,500 points by Finnucane on Monday February 05, 2018 @04:28PM (#16312361)
+2 beats -12.
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Re:Stocks are rolling over, Dow falls 1,500 points by freejulian on Monday February 05, 2018 @04:31PM (#16312387)
As more people flee to bonds the price rises, sending yields even lower. Also, inflation is higher than 2%, so you’re still losing money. Bitcoin is the only safehaven in times like these, the market just hasn’t realized it yet.
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Re:Stocks are rolling over, Dow falls 1,500 points by chefkoch on Monday February 05, 2018 @05:05PM (#16312666)
>Bitcoin is the only safehaven in times like these, the market just hasn’t realized it yet.

So it doesn't work?

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