Microsoft Office 2019 will only work on Windows 10

Re:Microsoft Office 2019 will only work on Windows 10 by cube2222 on Friday February 02, 2018 @10:43AM (#16291373)

Silent updates: Don't really know what you mean. Can't control: You can postpone them for quite a while. I'm sure it's at least 30 days, but you can do for much longer I think. Can't disable: Yea, what a pity, people won't be getting hacked by malware that got preventive updates shipped a year ago.

Reset settings: there was something like that, that's true, but the last time it happened, it was like a year ago, and I do think this is a case of "don't attribute malice to something that can by caused by a mistake".

Didn't still document: Half a month ago they put the windows diagnostic data viewer into windows, you can look up all telemetry that's getting sent back home.

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Re:Microsoft Office 2019 will only work on Windows 10 by vetinari on Friday February 02, 2018 @10:54AM (#16291476)

Silent updates: it is up to these people, whether they want to risk getting hacked, not up to Microsoft.

Reset settings: still happens. The worse thing is, that firewall rules for application packages have version numbers in them, so when you change the rule, and the package updates... you rule is ineffective. And no, Bing doesn't to know, what I'm searching local start menu for.

Didn't still document: so you know what "cV" or "iKey" values mean? Still, where's the "off" option? Mozilla doesn't get the telemetry from me, and there is an universe of difference, how trustworthy Mozilla is compared to Microsoft.

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Re:Microsoft Office 2019 will only work on Windows 10 by cube2222 on Friday February 02, 2018 @11:21AM (#16291725)

Same as it's up to people if they wanna use vaccine or not? The thing is:

1. Those people then are saying how bad and full of viruses Windows it's, even if it's only their fault. It's good for technically not-inclined users. And MS is only loosing here, as well as those users.

2. This is how you get botnets, which then take your worldwide DNS down. But yeah, it's only up to these people. Why would I care about botnets DDoS'ing half the net? And why would I care that companies are handling my sensitive personal data on insecure computers? Yeah, no worries. It should only be up to them...

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Re:Microsoft Office 2019 will only work on Windows 10 by Silhouette on Saturday February 03, 2018 @06:58AM (#16297288)

Those people then are saying how bad and full of viruses Windows it's, even if it's only their fault. It's good for technically not-inclined users.

That's a good argument for making security updates on-by-default. It's not a good argument for making all updates on-whether-you-like-it-or-not.

This is how you get botnets, which then take your worldwide DNS down.

The solution to botnets is to cut offending devices off the Internet at the ISP level. You can't trust local security measures in this context anyway.

And why would I care that companies are handling my sensitive personal data on insecure computers?

You're complaining about the security of sensitive personal data, in a discussion about an OS that can literally deploy arbitrary updates and upload arbitrary information to a third party for use in unknown ways? Your concerns about your privacy are fair, but I think you're on the wrong side of the debate here.

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