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Re:Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up by conanbatt on Friday February 02, 2018 @12:37AM (#16288656)
Thats what you want. Why do you feel entitled to make other people do what you want?
Re:Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up by kadenshep on Friday February 02, 2018 @08:44AM (#16290423)
The only thing that makes him entitled is learning from history and being able to reason about pretty elementary models in his head.

Why do people with your types of opinion always make it wholly personal, just to try to weasel their way around a subject?

Like, here's another comment you made:

>I like to compare Bitcoin to Land.

Just stop. There is so much fundamentally wrong with that analogy at face value it beggars belief that you are being sincere.

Re:Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up by conanbatt on Friday February 02, 2018 @04:21PM (#16294278)
> The only thing that makes him entitled is learning from history and being able to reason about pretty elementary models in his head.

That is his opinion, and even if it were factually true it doesnt give him the entitlement to prevent other people from doing it. If he believes the SEC provides value he can go to SEC regulated places, and let the ones that don't just be.

Today, the SEC regulates the startups right here, depressing wages of workers, reducing founder's returns, increasing investor returns and reducing overall market size. That is an economical fact. The steam of that oppression is coming out in crypto, where millions of people worldwide have a chance to 'invest' or speculate in something they are otherwise barred from doing. Barred by institutions like the SEC.

Crypto in spirit and technology is a way to get around those involuntary and foreign restrictions.

> Just stop. There is so much fundamentally wrong with that analogy at face value it beggars belief that you are being sincere.

I've made my case about it. You don't have to agree with it, and I dont have to agree with you. Do you want to call someone else into this to make sure neither you nor I say the wrong thing at punishment of fines and jail?

Re:Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up by kadenshep on Saturday February 03, 2018 @11:04PM (#16301259)
>and even if it were factually true it doesnt give him the entitlement to prevent other people from doing it.

Yes it does. In the same way I'm entitled to prevent people from drunk driving, because we know it's factually a bad idea and likely to end in a pretty nasty mess.

>I've built my case about it

In the same way you can build a ship designed to sink maybe.

Re:Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up by simias on Friday February 02, 2018 @04:29AM (#16289422)
Why do you think seat belts are mandatory? Apply the same reasoning to your question.
Re:Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up by conanbatt on Friday February 02, 2018 @04:24PM (#16294300)
For the wrong reasons. I dont think they should be mandatory at all.

Apply the same reasoning: check.

But this case is even worse. Its the sec regulating a foreign exchange that has foreign investors. You think the SEC can go and try to do that on alibaba?

Re:Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up by Daishiman on Friday February 02, 2018 @01:10PM (#16292662)
Because people can make choices collectively and that affects all of us.

No man is an island. If people choose to engage in activities that end up affecting negatively the rest of us through externalities such as pollution, corruption, and the destruction of economic value, sorry, but historically people don't just stand by idly and let others destroy the societies they've built.

Re:Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up by conanbatt on Friday February 02, 2018 @04:22PM (#16294286)
How is people buying tether and getting screwed related to you? What is the externality they are imposing on you?

Also even if that were true, it would show something else: the entitlement of doing something unto others to your own benefit. Isnt that always the reason to apply force?

Re:Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up by Daishiman on Friday February 02, 2018 @04:30PM (#16294355)
It's related in that those phenomena can cause an economic crash and the the losses of bad investments affect families, dependents, and the long-term health of societies.
Re:Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up by conanbatt on Friday February 02, 2018 @05:17PM (#16294644)
Even the most stringent and controlled economies can prevent crashes. Thats not what the SEC does as a purpose or as a result. Let alone in this space.

Bitcoin is entering another stage now where its resistance to this will be tested, hard.