C++ and the Culture of Complexity (2013)

Re:C++ and the Culture of Complexity (2013) by pjc50 on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @08:06AM (#16273508)

> why does C++ still support

Stop right there! There is plenty of evidence that removing features from a language is fatal to adoption. Both Perl and Python have suffered from this.

Specifically for trigraphs (apart from these, EBCDIC support doesn't affect compilers on other systems) IBM have a vote and they voted not to remove it: https://isocpp.org/files/papers/N4210.pdf

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Re:C++ and the Culture of Complexity (2013) by sstanie on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @02:53PM (#16276972)

How has Python suffered from this? They broke things going from 2 to 3... and it was still the fastest growing language from 2017. It clearly wasn't popular just because they removed features, but you can't say that removing things is fatal to adoption.

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Re:C++ and the Culture of Complexity (2013) by gpderetta on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @08:07AM (#16273513)

IIRC they did lose the final vote though, and trigraphs is one of the few features ever removed from C++.

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Re:C++ and the Culture of Complexity (2013) by 72deluxe on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @10:11AM (#16274394)

I miss them - I enjoyed being able to write ??=include at the top of my files.

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Re:C++ and the Culture of Complexity (2013) by gpderetta on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @10:59AM (#16274799)

Hey, digraphs are still there, they are almost as much fun as trigraph!

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